Saturday, September 21, 2013

An Interesting Yet Confusing Kickstarter - Raiders of R’lyeh: Horror Adventure RPG and Mythos Sandbox!

From what I can understand, Raiders of R’lyeh: Horror Adventure RPG and Mythos Sandbox is built off of the Mongoose RuneQuest Rules, which are OGL. Which means, this project shares a gaming lineage and probably high compatibility with Call of Cthulhu. Not that they claim compatibility, as that would probably require a license

That much I can follow. Here's where it gets confusing -

There is a "Black and White" version of the rules that comes in a single PDF (and at certain pledge levels as a Print version, not just PDF) and a color version that splits the PDF into GM and Players books.
The PRINT EDITION (RAIDERS OF R’LYEH IN GOTHIC BLACK & WHITE) is designed for players who want ALL of the rules in one convenient & beautiful tome. NEW: NOW UPGRADED TO A HARDCOVER WITH SMYTH SEWN BINDING.
But it's NOT all of the rules. They say so themselves:

Coming in at about 256 pages, it's a good size, but has a significantly smaller page count than the combined player's guide (140 pages) and GM guide (240 pages). I doubt they added 100+ pages of art to the color version. Admittedly, there could be some overlap, but it isn't explained if that is so. The color version is only in PDF, no print option.

Now, they offer the color version as a split of the core rules so players and GMs can have access to what is applicable to them, but without a print option for the color PDFs, the reality is, at the game table, 90% of folks will opt for the printed version. A split of the rules in B&W would have been a nice option.

Also, it appears they've hit stretch goals while still waiting to hit their funding goal (they will fund before it ends in 3 days).

In any case, I have three days to decide wether or not to pull the trigger on this one. I'm on the fence on this, as there seems to be some confusion as to the print version being a complete set of the rules or not.


  1. Anyone else getting a dialog popup on this site that asks for a username and password ---

    Enter username and password for http://stategovdata.com

    Only happens on this site for me.

    You may have something going on Eric.

  2. Isn't that a wordpress sample site or page?

    1. noticed it last night appears to be for a dead blog page - trying to figure out the cause

  3. Good luck. i thought all my pron surfing finally caught up with my macbook.

    I jest. Maybe.

  4. Once I initially commented I clicked the -Notify me when new feedback are added- check box and now every time a remark is added I get four emails with the same comment. Is there any method you can remove me from that service? Thanks!
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  5. I was considering backing, and then I saw the RPGPundit was involved. That sank my chances of backing - I won't support that guy.

    1. The Pundit runs http://www.therpgsite.com/

    2. So does that make him a douche bag or something? I'm unfamiliar with the site and the person.

    3. It means some folks have a very opinionated opinion of him, for good or ill.

      therpgsite has a tendency to attract vocal opinions in general ;)

    4. It's not the site.

  6. As a mythos fan I looked at this Kickstarter already, if you read the FAQ you'll find that each edition B&W and Color will have different material. Which seems dumb and incoherent. I am not backing it because of this.

    from the FAQ
    "So with the Black & White we decided to pack in more adventure templates, so that people buying just that book felt they were getting some bonus material in their edition.

    Some people prefer to have their rules split, one for the players and one for the keeper; any additional material in those books is intended to give those backers some bonus material for buying two separate books, and definitely not as an attempt to eliminate content from the Black & White edition."


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