Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Help Me Complete My List of OSR Style D&D Derivatives

Well, if I'm going to group the OSR games by complexity, I need to ensure I have a complete list. Here's what I have so far, add away please!

LotFP Weird Fantasy - Deluxe
LotFP Weird Fantasy - Grindhouse
Labyrinth Lord
Labyrinth Lord - AEC
Swords & Wizardry - Whitebox
Swords & Wizardry - Core
Swords & Wizardry - Complete
Basic Fantasy RPG
Dark Dungeons
Microlite 74 Basic
Microlite 74 Standard
Microlite 74 Extended
Adventures Dark & Deep
Castles & Crusades
Hackmaster 4e
Hackmaster 5e
Dungeon Crawl Classics
Adventurer Conqueror King Sytem
The Secret Fire
Spellcraft & Swordplay*
Weird West (not standard fantasy, but still fantastic)*
For Gold and Glory (i missed this from my own list on the left)*
Myth & Magic (you need to register for the forums to DL the rules)
Beacon (nice free suggested RPG)*

I need to hyperlink all this at some point ;)

*edit added based on suggestions


  1. Some of these go a bit beyond cloning, so would Spellcraft & Swordplay be appropriate? http://www.grey-elf.com/products.html

  2. There is also a swords and wizardry derivative called Crypts and Things that should be out soon


    If you count 2e there is also For Gold and Glory as well as Myth and Magic

  3. Weird West should likely be at the "not complex" end of the spectrum. http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2011/07/review-weird-west-roleplaying-game.html

  4. I've got a few more on my hardrive that aren't on this list, not sure howmany are still available though.

    Adventures Dark and Deep
    Bandits & Basilisks
    Classic 77
    Epées & Sorcellerie
    Kids Castles & Caves
    Lamentations of the Flame Princess
    Mazes and Minotaurs (not really clone-y but very OSR)
    Original Edition Delta
    Project 74
    Redbox Fantasy
    Searcher of the Unknown (and variants)
    The Big Brown book
    The Greybook
    Wizards Wyrms and Warriors

  5. i'm leaving sic-fi off for now, so no stars w.o numbers or x-plorers.

    i think project 74 became microlite 74, not sure

    laminations of the flame princes is LotFP Weird Fantasy - its on the list

    i've now have to peek at some others that have been mentioned...

  6. Dragonquest really isn't a derivative, so it shouldn't be on the list, but I will go play it in my lonely corner of the OSR world.

  7. Are you only looking for English-language clones? Otherwise there's the Brazilian game Old Dragon, but I don't know how close it is to a proper clone.

  8. I guess you need to add Labyrinth Lord - Original Edition Characters as well as Microlite 75

  9. If Engines & Empires and Retro Phaze qualify for the list, they're near to the simpler end of the spectrum. E&E is more complex than Labyrinth Lord, but less complex than Dark Dungeons. Retro Phaze is downright minimalist, perhaps about a simple as White Box, but still clearly derived from that sort of edition.


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