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Monday, February 10, 2020

Offered Without Comment...

because I am literally without words.

note: not a hack



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  1. Greyhawk GrognardFebruary 10, 2020 at 11:09 AM

    Ummm...

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  2. Rod ThompsonFebruary 10, 2020 at 12:13 PM

    Generally useful comments in this situation are:
    1. Well, that was awkward.
    2. No good will come from it.
    3. It will all end in tears.
    Pick one and change the subject.

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  3. Chris NasonFebruary 10, 2020 at 12:36 PM

    WTF...

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  4. Chris NasonFebruary 10, 2020 at 12:40 PM

    Errrr... What?

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  5. MatthewFebruary 10, 2020 at 1:35 PM

    Are these confirmed, it is very easy to fake Facebook posts.

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    1. Ancalagon_TBFebruary 13, 2020 at 7:04 PM

      Apparently people reached out to him to give him a chance to explain himself and he doubled down on the comments so.... I guess that's confirmed.

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  6. AnonymousFebruary 10, 2020 at 2:06 PM

    This guy has his facebook privacy w i d e open. There's so much more, none of it good

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    1. Greyhawk GrognardFebruary 10, 2020 at 7:03 PM

      Oh it's locked down now!

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    2. AnonymousFebruary 10, 2020 at 8:51 PM

      Took him long enough, the dumbass

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    3. MatthewFebruary 10, 2020 at 9:39 PM

      Didn't have a chance to check and now it appears to be secure. TY for the confirmation.

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    4. Charles SaegerFebruary 11, 2020 at 8:32 AM

      I should have done a few screen grabs. He had anti-gay and pro-grabbing ass posts, and I only made it back to October.

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  7. AnonymousFebruary 10, 2020 at 2:14 PM

    Yeah it's real. I went and checked it out myself. Very disturbing.

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  8. MistwellFebruary 10, 2020 at 2:20 PM

    I just exchanged some private messages with him concerning the Jewsmedia comment.

    He asked me not to share his text, which I will respect. I will only say yes, he absolutely believes what he said. This does not appear to be some slip of the tongue or poorly chosen phrase by him where he meant something different than what he said.

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    1. Bear MillottsFebruary 12, 2020 at 6:30 PM

      Why respect his request? If he's willing to say these things on a public forum, why not your conversation? It only helps him, not the people he is attacking.

      "We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." -- Elie Wiesel's Nobel Peace Prize Speech, December 1986

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    2. HJBFebruary 13, 2020 at 5:13 AM

      Bear- In this case, confirmation that "yup, that is what Bob thinks, and not a hack nor a poor choice of words" note is sufficient. Resorting to the low road will only weaken the case as it would be doing a wrong thing.

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  9. Andy ActionFebruary 10, 2020 at 2:25 PM

    This guy has always been an open and proud bigot.
    This comes as no surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.
    In the current climate (both in the U.S. and in the old school RPG scene), he has no need or reason to hide.
    He is just appealing to his customer base, sadly.

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    1. Cross PlanesFebruary 11, 2020 at 11:26 AM

      I mostly keep to myself, writing my blog and interacting with a fairly small group of bloggers/publishers within the OSR. I haven't seen widespread antisemitism. I'm not saying it's not out there, but please don't be afraid to point it out.

      2020 is worse than I feard it would be.

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    2. Dungeon BeefFebruary 11, 2020 at 1:10 PM

      I tend to dwell and keep in my own circles as well (which sadly shrank after G+ died) so when information like this hits I'm glad to have it pointed out.

      And Andy Action is definitely not afraid to call out hatred and bigotry in the RPG scene when he sees it. He's a good egg that one.

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    3. Johnny JazzhandsFebruary 11, 2020 at 9:27 PM

      What utter b.s.

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    4. Mister Frau BlucherFebruary 12, 2020 at 7:39 PM

      He is obviously not appealing to his customer base. They have all rebuked him. You will not find a single Judges Guild fan saying "I agree." Which, if your thesis that the current climate encourages it is correct, they obviously wood.

      You are objectively wrong. Maybe time to check your own bigotry, Andy. Even if the current climate encourages it.

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    5. Andy ActionFebruary 13, 2020 at 10:06 AM

      Mr. Frau, I hate to break it to you, but I’ve been reading comment after comment of people defending this guy in multiple contexts, all public. Anyone who is paying attention is observing the same, as the racists, misogynists and anti-Semites scuttle out of the woodwork, clamoring to claim the “edgelord of the week” title on the scraps of this shit show.

      You can tell yourself that I’m the problem all you want, but if you believe that calling out bigots is the same as being a bigot, then I wood [sic] suggest that you don’t know what that word means.

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    6. TenkarFebruary 13, 2020 at 12:04 PM

      The truth is somewhere between the twos extremes you are both referring to. Yes, there are those directly or obtusely defending Bob. It is a noticeable minority. To claim no one is defending him or a large contingent is, is disingenuous at best, purposely misleading at worst

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    7. Mister Frau BlucherFebruary 13, 2020 at 12:28 PM

      I have not seen anyone defending his comments, but I have not scoured the internet as Andy claims to. I have seen many Andy-like people falsely claiming once again that this is evidence of bigotry among old schoolers. I know what bigotry is, I have seen and dealt with it for five decades. It doesn't always look like what you want or think.

      Tenkar, I am being neither misleading or disingenuous; it is false on your part to claim that and I resent the mischaracterization. I genuinely have not seen anyone defending him, but I take it you have so I will plead ignorance instead.

      And yes, that typo was bad.

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    8. Capricorn RisingFebruary 15, 2020 at 9:38 AM

      I agree with Andy. I friended Andy on FB because of his OSR contributions, love of music, and he's a standup guy with common sense politics and honestly one of the nicer guys who does stand up for what's right. Jeff Dee as well.

      There is tons of crap in the OSR groups, it's pathetic and sad just like our current political culture.

      I can verify, Bob was a total closed minded bigot asshole every single time he said something in any kind of political or "cultural" discussion. Anyone who encountered Bob online knows this...he's a mouth breathing bigot who thankfully is gone.

      I'm also disgusted by people liking, loving, and even defending the dude.

      Good riddance.

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    9. Andy ActionFebruary 15, 2020 at 1:24 PM

      Thanks for your kind words, Dungeon Beef & Capricorn Rising.

      These types of incidents in our community tend to really bring the bigots and their enablers and apologists out of the woodwork in droves.

      The happy byproduct is that we learn who they are and don’t have to share our gaming tables with them!

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  10. KhasimirFebruary 10, 2020 at 2:27 PM

    This isn't the first time Bob II has posted this type of crap. He posted some anti semitic Holdomor comments about a year ago that I took screensshots of.

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    1. Cross PlanesFebruary 11, 2020 at 11:24 AM

      I'm honestly curious why you would take screenshots and and sit on them for a year?
      Were you debating wether to bring it to other's attention?
      This is not an attack, I'm just curious, it never occurs to me to screenshot stuff.

      I'm angry that people these days that people are more comfortable letting their bigotry show.

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    2. Ken BurnsideFebruary 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM

      I know why people hold onto those screen grabs for a year.

      Because sometimes, you have no clue if posting them will generate a negative reaction to the perpetrator or yourself.

      Having rape threats and death threads flooding your inbox because some bigot's fans see you as the target du jour is a horrible way to spend two weeks of your life, falling behind on your projects that barely pay the bills.

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    3. Johnny JazzhandsFebruary 11, 2020 at 9:28 PM

      Saving them to use when it's convenient to take someone down, most likely. Looks like this one took himself down.

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  11. MistwellFebruary 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM

    Note his comment on these two public posts of his:

    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Ux8Ehwm.jpg[/IMG]


    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/8wTy9OO.jpg[/IMG]

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  12. JeffFebruary 10, 2020 at 3:05 PM

    Well, I suppose it's good to know he, um, feels that way. I'm a more informed consumer. I didn't have any plans to purchase from them in the near future, at least. Oh well.

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    1. TheShadowKnowsFebruary 10, 2020 at 4:40 PM

      They would have to successfully release a product before you could boycott it. So don't hold your breath!

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  13. deep throatFebruary 10, 2020 at 4:21 PM

    i don't know who he is can some one care to explain how he relates to the OSR?

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    1. TheShadowKnowsFebruary 10, 2020 at 4:41 PM

      His father founded Judges Guild.

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    2. deep throatFebruary 10, 2020 at 6:29 PM

      thanks for putting it into context. really a nobody and now a bigot.

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    3. Johnny JazzhandsFebruary 11, 2020 at 9:28 PM

      It doesn't

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    4. HJBFebruary 13, 2020 at 5:21 AM

      There is also a wayward KS (started by Bob III, who royally dropped the ball) which Bob II picked up and was in theory making progress on. There were volunteers out there who offered to help out with proofing and such in an attempt to move things along. I doubt any of us will wish to follow through on that offer now. We certainly won't want any KS backer credit in the finished product as some KS projects do.

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  14. MistwellFebruary 10, 2020 at 4:43 PM

    OK....this is just outright antisemitism right here:

    https://i.imgur.com/mMGuqIj.jpg

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  15. Balrog62February 10, 2020 at 4:49 PM

    Met him once at NTRPG con, before the big failure of the CSIO Kickstarter. He was not a nice guy, and definitely not a gamer. Hope to never cross paths with him again.

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  16. Charles SaegerFebruary 10, 2020 at 5:18 PM

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  17. HamsterKnightFebruary 11, 2020 at 2:01 AM

    Apples and trees. I am glad to see that this type of conduct is finally being called out. https://imgur.com/nBI7OOd

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  18. TashaGFebruary 11, 2020 at 3:50 AM

    Wow HamsterKnight's post shows that Both RB II and RB III are anti semitic shitbags. wow

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  19. gmkerosFebruary 11, 2020 at 8:45 AM

    and another one shows his true colors. sigh.

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  20. A Peak Oil SurvivorFebruary 11, 2020 at 10:45 AM

    That’s the end of JG then. I’ll keep my good memories of classic JG though. Never heard anything but good things about RB the founder,

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    1. Johnny JazzhandsFebruary 11, 2020 at 9:29 PM

      Good reason not to let your kids take over the family biz.

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  21. Gene WeigelFebruary 11, 2020 at 6:39 PM

    I would not be cool with someone saying that to my face with an intentional outlook. However, this seems too sensational and might be some revenge profile. So I would be absolutely positive before condemning the whole franchise. Before Gary died in 2008, there was two fake profiles for Gary Gygax on Facebook so this might be some asshat stunt ala several reddits and blogs that thrive off shit like this. If this is true and Bledsaw III is crude like that then he needs a swift kick in the ass. I was never a big follower of Judges Guild but I know a lot of OSR folks find it interesting. Most JG material went trendy by the end of the 80s so thats why I never really got into the brand as I was too Gygax-centric. That said, I would like to say that most OSR people are cool. Except maybe in the very beginnings of the OSR on my forum the anti-establishment and free atmosphere dragged in a lot of scum that I couldn't take and I had to nuke it twice. OSR got a bad rap because of my libertarian-like positions as the biggest mouth on the internet just before it started. OSR has zero to do with me and is a buttoned down far cry from my free speech spectacle. Thats why I don't have "OSR" on anything that I do. My stuff is either straight AD&D Gygax era for the blog or as product for sale is drliberately generic for any game. All that said I hope this is a big mistake for Judges Guild but if it isn't then I'm not cool with it.

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    1. MistwellFebruary 11, 2020 at 7:16 PM

      Gene, he absolutely 100% supports the posts he posted, and it is definitely not a fake account. If you have any connection to him, you can ask him yourself.

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  22. Baron GreystoneFebruary 12, 2020 at 4:57 PM

    I actually blogged about this topic a couple years ago, and it was the Bledsaws in part that motivated my post. Rather than repeating my argument here, I'll just link back to my original post: https://themichlinguide.wordpress.com/2018/07/24/voting-with-your-wallet-or-public-vs-private-a-guide-to-consumer-ethics/

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  23. Bret GoldsteinFebruary 13, 2020 at 2:11 PM

    I am a Jewish guy. I have dealt with anti-semitism during my lifetime. This isn't some silly "woke" attack on Mr. Bledsaw. This is out and out unapologetic bigotry. It's America so he has the right to spout whatever views he has. People died so that idiots like him can spout blather. But I don't have to like it. I don't have to condone it. I don't have to purchase anything from JG. Apparently many distributors have done their own research and have cut ties with him.

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