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Thursday, August 9, 2018

The Tavern Chat Podcast - Episode 85 - $500 Waterdeep Platinum Edition for 5e - WTF?

I know we are a hobby that enjoys collectible, limited editions, but 500 bucks for an adventure that will be available in hardcover for 50 - or less than 40 shipped on Amazon.
WotC has licensed a $500 "Platinum Edition" of its upcoming Waterdeep: Dragon Heist adventure, the same adventure that will release 2 months earlier in hardcover for 40 bucks - shipped - on Amazon.
Link to Episode 85https://anchor.fm/tavernchat/episodes/Episode-85---500-Waterdeep-Platinum-Edition-for-5e---WTF-e200sg




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  1. In what way is this 'limited'?

  2. This irritates me. I’ve been faithfully collecting l things 5e from Wizards and a few select 3PPs. But this seems like a money grab extraordinaire! Out of principle alone I should say no. But it’s one of those deals where it it’s only going to cost more, a great deal more, down the road.

  3. People buy $850 t shirts. I don't understand most things people spend thier money on.

  4. For better or worse, $500 is no longer a shocking amount to spend on games. Games Workshop regularly offers product bundles for Warhammer that exceed the $500 mark. I stopped being surprised at the prices awhile ago.

    An adventure with a complete set of maps, miniatures, and encounter cards is a great idea. But I read on another forum though that this particular adventure only continues to Level 5, so the gaming group won't be using all of these accessories for very long. The rest of the material in the box just seems flashy but useless.

    If I played 5E, and if I had an extra $500 kicking around, I'd be on the fence for this one. But I wouldn't mock anyone who bought it.

  5. Nothing about this makes any kind of sense to me. I try to approach it from different angles, but I get absolutely nowhere how a limited edition of a $50 adventure rates $500 retail. This makes even less sense than the $200-$300 dice towers (seemingly well made with very nice woods) I saw in the dealer hall this past GenCon. This is some kind of a prank, right? (I ask this as someone who has spent a whole lot of money on Dwarven Forged.)

  6. I'm a sucker for this sort of thing, but I'm totally passing on this one. I checked out the spoiler page; that is simply horrible and boring! That said, I suspect they'll have no problems selling $500 of anything "limited edition" with a D&D 5e label on it...

  7. Well, it states it comes with a metric ton of weird stuff. I'd never buy it, but someone somewhere must be. This is comparable to the special pack of player aids and props Chaosium has being made for the Masks of Nyarlathotep, another amazing thing I'd never actually spend money on.

    I mean....I'm glad there are whales out there buying this stuff....but I don't know any of them.

  8. I picked it up. Glad to have all those resources for a city crawl in a city I plan to use and reuse time and time again. If you're not familiar with several (not all) of 5E's big adventures, many of them double as regional sourcebooks, hexcrawls, and purposely keep dungeons (relatively) small and constrained so they can be reused and hacked into your own adventures with ease. I suspect this in particular will basically be a citycrawl guide disguised as an adventure, so all of these resources will get used again and again.

    That's my hope. I don't normally buy sight unseen like ever, but I figure since I live in Hollywood I'm close enough to Matthew Lillard to give him what for if this thing turns out to be a stinker. That and my DMsGuild sales are good enough to cover this thing's high price tag.

    That said, this is a niche-within-a-niche product for sure. If you're not a Realms person, I can't see why you'd buy this. If you're not 100% you're going to do at least a full campaign of citycrawling or specifically Waterdeep stuff, I don't know why you'd even consider this. And I think they know that, and though they weren't the best at stating what this was going to include, I feel like they got those parts across in the launch media.

    You know who's going to want/use/love this, to be honest? Streamers. That and the folks who religiously run AL or intro adventures at their FLGS. Their "look" will be vastly improved by these props, and they know it. (Also a niche-within-a-niche.)