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Tuesday, October 11, 2011

Help Me Complete My List of OSR Style D&D Derivatives

Well, if I'm going to group the OSR games by complexity, I need to ensure I have a complete list. Here's what I have so far, add away please!


LotFP Weird Fantasy - Deluxe
LotFP Weird Fantasy - Grindhouse
Labyrinth Lord
Labyrinth Lord - AEC
Swords & Wizardry - Whitebox
Swords & Wizardry - Core
Swords & Wizardry - Complete
OSRIC
Basic Fantasy RPG
Dark Dungeons
Microlite 74 Basic
Microlite 74 Standard
Microlite 74 Extended
Adventures Dark & Deep
Castles & Crusades
Hackmaster 4e
Hackmaster 5e
Dungeon Crawl Classics
Adventurer Conqueror King Sytem
The Secret Fire
Spellcraft & Swordplay*
Weird West (not standard fantasy, but still fantastic)*
For Gold and Glory (i missed this from my own list on the left)*
Myth & Magic (you need to register for the forums to DL the rules)
Beacon (nice free suggested RPG)*


I need to hyperlink all this at some point ;)

*edit added based on suggestions

9 comments:

  1. Some of these go a bit beyond cloning, so would Spellcraft & Swordplay be appropriate? http://www.grey-elf.com/products.html

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  2. There is also a swords and wizardry derivative called Crypts and Things that should be out soon

    http://sorcererundermountain.d101games.co.uk/

    If you count 2e there is also For Gold and Glory as well as Myth and Magic

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  3. Weird West should likely be at the "not complex" end of the spectrum. http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2011/07/review-weird-west-roleplaying-game.html

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  4. I've got a few more on my hardrive that aren't on this list, not sure howmany are still available though.


    Adventures Dark and Deep
    Bandits & Basilisks
    Classic 77
    Epées & Sorcellerie
    Kids Castles & Caves
    Lamentations of the Flame Princess
    Mazes and Minotaurs (not really clone-y but very OSR)
    Original Edition Delta
    Platemail
    Project 74
    Redbox Fantasy
    Searcher of the Unknown (and variants)
    The Big Brown book
    The Greybook
    Wizards Wyrms and Warriors
    X-plorers

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  5. i'm leaving sic-fi off for now, so no stars w.o numbers or x-plorers.

    i think project 74 became microlite 74, not sure

    laminations of the flame princes is LotFP Weird Fantasy - its on the list

    i've now have to peek at some others that have been mentioned...

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  6. Dragonquest really isn't a derivative, so it shouldn't be on the list, but I will go play it in my lonely corner of the OSR world.

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  7. Are you only looking for English-language clones? Otherwise there's the Brazilian game Old Dragon, but I don't know how close it is to a proper clone.

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  8. I guess you need to add Labyrinth Lord - Original Edition Characters as well as Microlite 75

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  9. If Engines & Empires and Retro Phaze qualify for the list, they're near to the simpler end of the spectrum. E&E is more complex than Labyrinth Lord, but less complex than Dark Dungeons. Retro Phaze is downright minimalist, perhaps about a simple as White Box, but still clearly derived from that sort of edition.

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