tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post3620843860290059945..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: The Gygax Memorial Fund - A Week After (Tim Kask's Questions) - A Summary of Newly Available Info (with observations and further steps to be taken)Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-29763290452878696972016-05-05T22:35:35.426-04:002016-05-05T22:35:35.426-04:00Sympathy for the woman who has browbeat and threat...Sympathy for the woman who has browbeat and threatened Gary's children, is the reason for the closure of Gygax magazine, and the woman who pulled all licenses of Gary's material and never did anything else with the IP?<br /><br />No thanks.Ceronomushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07336196754943196901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-23142042508110553012016-05-05T15:26:29.426-04:002016-05-05T15:26:29.426-04:00Simply posting updates on the website (not just fa...Simply posting updates on the website (not just facebook) would solve a lot of the PR issues. When there is no communication for long periods of time, people become upset. When the website looks abandoned people don't donate. Letting people know what's going on is a simple and inexpensive step.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04671950711616527956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-59235685066282686672016-05-05T13:54:22.949-04:002016-05-05T13:54:22.949-04:00That may cross a little bit of a line unless you a...That may cross a little bit of a line unless you actually have reason to believe there's *malfeasance* and not just incompetence. If anyone does ask it should probably be done privately and nothing said about it unless Elmore indicated he had not been contacted by the GMF.Knighterranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00822024160361226180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-17724501058659005912016-05-05T13:49:52.671-04:002016-05-05T13:49:52.671-04:00Well, what games did he write anyway?Well, what games did he write anyway?Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-24338296324229073832016-05-05T11:42:22.863-04:002016-05-05T11:42:22.863-04:00NEW HOMEWORK FOR TENKAR!NEW HOMEWORK FOR TENKAR!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-87098811994049710022016-05-05T11:08:07.113-04:002016-05-05T11:08:07.113-04:00I appreciate your work on getting as much info as ...I appreciate your work on getting as much info as possible out there. I do think that at the same time,we should remain empathic to Gail's situation and who she is as a person (clearly not an expert in crowdunding project management). Some people are leaping to judgement or a distrust when I am pretty sure the issue is just a lack of experience/understanding of this domainOlmanFeelyushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521657876810568251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-89205111852636832212016-05-05T09:56:03.768-04:002016-05-05T09:56:03.768-04:00I am curious if anyone has contacted Larry Elmore ...I am curious if anyone has contacted Larry Elmore to verify if his working on this project is true. If he is working on the project with Gail, maybe he knows something more about how things are progressing.<br />WendyKrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18337834588525103319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22121200541556691842016-05-05T09:48:16.185-04:002016-05-05T09:48:16.185-04:00Erik beat me to it. Until questions were asked las...Erik beat me to it. Until questions were asked last year, there had been ZERO updates anywhere on this project. The proverbial fire has now been lit and there seems to be some movement. One hopes this will now lead to regular updates online for those of us who have donated money.<br /><br />And btw I still think the issue of a set location for the memorial is one that will lead to issues. Gail and the LG City Council are far apart on this (it appears). So any talk of how building the memorial is right around the corner is going to have to wait until this is settled. This is something else I'd like to see better presented so if and when Gail needs fans to throw in their support we actually know what the hell is going on.Badmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199830751033032585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-30115856875266817032016-05-05T09:44:41.532-04:002016-05-05T09:44:41.532-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.WendyKrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18337834588525103319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-59515228058542803672016-05-05T09:42:54.715-04:002016-05-05T09:42:54.715-04:00Cost for these would be minimal, and would pay for...Cost for these would be minimal, and would pay for itself in terms of future fund raising. Would you give any money to the GMF now if you went to their webpage? Would you buy a brick? The NTRPG con donated to the original GMF and as of right now there is no way in hell I would give them another cent until I see a plan going forward. I think a lot of fans are starting to fall into this category. Badmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199830751033032585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-12903802010066648852016-05-05T09:38:13.321-04:002016-05-05T09:38:13.321-04:00As an aside, it's only been when attention has...As an aside, it's only been when attention has been placed on the Fund that ANY updates have been forthcoming. Today's post was a breakdown of the updates that were posted in response to Tim's post - information that can non be found on the Fund's page.<br /><br />If the Fund's intention is to rally troops of gamers to a City Council Meeting to support the movement of the proposed site to one preferred by the Fund, that info should be front and center on the Fund's site.Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-51096138513040959822016-05-05T09:33:57.785-04:002016-05-05T09:33:57.785-04:00Transparency at this point.
I still have question...Transparency at this point.<br /><br />I still have questions I'd like answered. I'd like to have those answers even if I need to find them myself.<br /><br />With answers and insight into where the Fund has been and is going, the Fund might actually succeed in it's goals.<br /><br />I'd like to see this project come to fruition, much like a vastly overdue Kickstarter. <br /><br />This is by all definitions a "crowdfunded" project, and we all know what happens when I get focused on one of those ;)Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-52072164445142617702016-05-05T09:32:07.864-04:002016-05-05T09:32:07.864-04:00I'll have to agree about PR. In my opinion Ga...I'll have to agree about PR. In my opinion Gail should be publishing quarterly official updates, etc. <br /><br />The problem is, at the end of the day, you can only give her advice. In which case, if she refuses it, you then have to leave it be and accept that you disagree.JRThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06028363896728357260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-4670284958462829902016-05-05T09:28:48.377-04:002016-05-05T09:28:48.377-04:00IMHO, they have done something wrong - the lack of...IMHO, they have done something wrong - the lack of updates has led to a perception that the Fund is not an active project. The Fund's website, the actual place where you can donate, hasn't updated it's "news" since 2014.<br /><br />FAQ page? "Coming Soon" since the site went live.<br /><br />Products for sale? Nothing in stock<br /><br />All of this SHOULD be on the Fund's website. It should look alive. It should be vibrant with news and activity. Sadly, it isn't.<br /><br />Heck, even the Fund's Facebook page went over a year without an update, and that's a year beyond the timeframe of Gail's illness.<br /><br />How much would it cost to update the fund with news once a month? I'm sure there are fans that would offer their services for free.Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-7818620139894335142016-05-05T09:28:28.019-04:002016-05-05T09:28:28.019-04:00Tenkar, I guess I have to ask what the ultimate go...Tenkar, I guess I have to ask what the ultimate goal or endgame of your research is?<br /><br />Originally, you got involved with this because you appeared to be concerned about possible fraud claims that were surfacing around online. So, once the returns were provided, that problem was resolved.<br /><br />Now you want other questions answered about plans, etc. Now that they have been provided, what next? Is the point to see if Gail is being honest with the public? <br /><br />If so, if that is proven, then when do you say "okay, things are cool"? Because at some point, I think it then turns from simple curiosity and concern and informing the public to just snarky editorializing.<br /><br />I think the thing to remember is that, while it's a 503(c) corp, it's still not anything like a government agency or a democracy, and ultimately Gail has the final say on what the statue looks like, gets implemented, etc. It was never a Kickstarter where a due date was promised and a final design get approved by the fans or donors. If people dislike her plans--they are free to disagree and not donate, etc. JRThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06028363896728357260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-55706563541943044102016-05-05T09:15:49.140-04:002016-05-05T09:15:49.140-04:00Monument for Crazy Horse has been in progress sinc...Monument for Crazy Horse has been in progress since 1948...Just sayin.<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse_MemorialDittogoblinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10036192170274439403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-57627492198944641312016-05-05T09:14:11.241-04:002016-05-05T09:14:11.241-04:00if they did what you are suggesting there would be...if they did what you are suggesting there would be very little money left. They don't need a PR person to clean up the image of anything. Right now, this is known to a very small niche of folks, and they haven't done anything wrong. We have no evidence of wrongdoing. What we have is people in charge of something with no experience managing the type of organization they are in charge of. <br /><br />Ulairihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607463247068182810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-39856250797490071912016-05-05T09:03:40.677-04:002016-05-05T09:03:40.677-04:00My entirely unsolicited advice would be for the GM...My entirely unsolicited advice would be for the GMF to hire a PR person to clean up the image of the GMF, and then a web/media person to update the various sites and keep fans in the loop via social media. This project has overwhelmed what small resources Gail and the GMF team seem to have and threatened to put an ugly black eye on the project. When you have lost the old guard (it's not just Tim), lost the Gygax kids, and now are losing the fans themselves, it's time to look at the mess and ask yourself the question "Am I doing this right?" Gail is not the first relative with no experience in this kind of endeavor to find herself overwhelmed. Simple fact is she just might not be the best person to complete the Gygax Memorial. Badmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199830751033032585noreply@blogger.com