tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post191888268252799389..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Frog God Games Goes "Non-Kickstarter" - Preorder with Funding Goal for "Quests of Doom 2"Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-76901276853912089572015-10-27T05:59:37.212-04:002015-10-27T05:59:37.212-04:00I love reading story books. I am willing to buy an...I love reading story books. I am willing to buy an Quests of Doom 2 book. But available for pre order only. I think, pre order means give before paying some amount for legal protection.<br />-------------<br /><a href="https://www.zoplay.com/web/fund-starter/" rel="nofollow">Kelly Wallace</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624184750055366758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-42565559037576478092015-08-25T14:11:49.556-04:002015-08-25T14:11:49.556-04:00I'd rather support an indy publisher like you,...I'd rather support an indy publisher like you, Venger, who already has a cash flow and is taking the risk than shifting it onto backers.Enthusiastic Nerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15725587122901830092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-47742842446206649532015-08-25T14:10:34.626-04:002015-08-25T14:10:34.626-04:00A question about the "legal" protection ...A question about the "legal" protection with Kickstarter - is it enforceable? Has anyone ever brought a case to court, aside from the infamous Cryptozoic case? I usually don't back crowdfunding due to such disasters as Dwimmermount and Exalted 3. I'll support the publishers by buying when they appear on DTRPG or in the local game store. I'm not down on all crowdfunding, I've just been burned several times and its very hard to earn my trust.Enthusiastic Nerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15725587122901830092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-46114609507043712332015-08-22T13:51:29.683-04:002015-08-22T13:51:29.683-04:00FGG has built an email list of backers from their ...FGG has built an email list of backers from their previous KS projects and their daily deal offers that they can now use to reach out directly to their fans rather than hope people find their website. That coupled with Endzeitgeist reviews, a strong following on Paizo and a great reputation also help. Very smart.AEIOUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03614111224534919962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-69833785234339906012015-08-22T13:51:23.030-04:002015-08-22T13:51:23.030-04:00FGG has built an email list of backers from their ...FGG has built an email list of backers from their previous KS projects and their daily deal offers that they can now use to reach out directly to their fans rather than hope people find their website. That coupled with Endzeitgeist reviews, a strong following on Paizo and a great reputation also help. Very smart.AEIOUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03614111224534919962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2960577216821662882015-08-22T07:33:30.377-04:002015-08-22T07:33:30.377-04:00If a RPG publisher has the infrastructure to sell ...If a RPG publisher has the infrastructure to sell a book themselves without DTRPG or similar middleman, then, yes, escaping the KS fee is beneficial. For small time self-publishers like myself, paying KS a small percentage saves me from paying DTRPG a whopping 30%. More money goes to me and, therefore, into the product itself.<br /><br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-24999837254644141792015-08-21T06:52:51.731-04:002015-08-21T06:52:51.731-04:00You HAVE legal protection with KS. The TOS say th...You HAVE legal protection with KS. The TOS say that the creator MUST either fulfill your reward or refund your money. If he doesn't, you can cancel your payment (if it's not too late) or take him to court - just like with any other online purchase.<br /><br />Thieves and con men like to say "Kickstarter is an investment" and "Kickstarter is about goodwill, not a purchase". Don't believe their lies. You are OWED your rewards or your money back.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-29047283044467560732015-08-20T21:39:08.250-04:002015-08-20T21:39:08.250-04:00KS often isn't even a pre-order - it's a d...KS often isn't even a pre-order - it's a donation with the hopes that they'll give you something. A pre-order would give some amount of legal protection. <br /><br />In the case of Frog God Games, of course, they have the track record both in terms of delivery and quality that leads to the sort of trust that helps them do this. Not to mention that they have the PDF already available, showing that they're just trying to cover physical printing costs rather than try to sell something that doesn't exist at all.Kyle Maxwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02028811120307956640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-41377336141828599852015-08-20T21:05:56.494-04:002015-08-20T21:05:56.494-04:00as did others - the circle is now complete.
this ...as did others - the circle is now complete.<br /><br />this may raise less funds but there is no percentage lost to KSTenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-59222391168742295612015-08-20T21:04:18.644-04:002015-08-20T21:04:18.644-04:00Monte Cook did this with Ptolus back in the day.Monte Cook did this with Ptolus back in the day.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07649420272387984400noreply@blogger.com