tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post8142489863463412304..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Whatever Happened with the 5e OGL / GSL / Whatever the Heck it Was Supposed to Be?Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-81292410121732777712016-01-13T00:57:49.135-05:002016-01-13T00:57:49.135-05:00I think there will be an OGL for sure. :)I think there will be an OGL for sure. :)mbeacomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03674702605226704063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-18335321691457050722015-07-03T18:46:10.874-04:002015-07-03T18:46:10.874-04:00I find it sad that an official licence, and that D...I find it sad that an official licence, and that D&D logo, is so important for some people. (Logos are just marketing...)<br /><br />Anyone who knows the rules (well enough) can convert (almost) any edition of D&D (and its derivatives) on the fly to any edition of D&D (and its derivatives.) Reverend Dakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589927717583694031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-760508198101358402015-07-02T17:54:21.134-04:002015-07-02T17:54:21.134-04:00If I recall correctly the person who was tasked wi...If I recall correctly the person who was tasked with the Licensing Agreement got called up for Jury Duty, which set the whole project back months and months, Gwarhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17418752892135113886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-20733389941102624792015-07-02T17:42:09.923-04:002015-07-02T17:42:09.923-04:00Thanks for bringing this up again. I tweeted abou...Thanks for bringing this up again. I tweeted about it -- precious little nothing that accomplished.Dr. Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14915912787477812255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-90139772077745519412015-07-02T07:55:08.517-04:002015-07-02T07:55:08.517-04:00I very much doubt that there was ever a serious in...I very much doubt that there was ever a serious intention for an OGL to appear with 5e. What I think there was, instead, was a desire to get people invested, and that claiming an OGL would be coming was a step in that direction. Individual people may have believed what they were saying in those announcements, because sincerity helps you convince others, but I don't think that the corporate entity was ever doing anything other than playing a shell game.<br /><br />I would love to be proved wrong.ravencrowkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315630554847698555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71618381227348191232015-07-01T23:30:48.143-04:002015-07-01T23:30:48.143-04:00I'll buy that but I suspect it has as much to ...I'll buy that but I suspect it has as much to do with TSR lawsuits in the 90s against fans on the net as much as in the 70s.Pulp Herbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486803457210325703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-61819105850803594782015-07-01T23:28:24.711-04:002015-07-01T23:28:24.711-04:00I heard it will be released the day Dan Boggs ship...I heard it will be released the day Dan Boggs ships the last of the Champions of Zed hardback books to backers.Pulp Herbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02486803457210325703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-76862738528281891082015-07-01T15:38:20.958-04:002015-07-01T15:38:20.958-04:00So true. Why rely on Hasbro?So true. Why rely on Hasbro?Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-39014638738697361522015-07-01T15:00:54.312-04:002015-07-01T15:00:54.312-04:00Last I heard someone at Wizards made some public c...Last I heard someone at Wizards made some public comment (might have been on that Reddit AMA they did last year) about the license coming out this summer, so they've got a couple of months. But I've all but given up hope on it. As a publisher, the 5E window for me has pretty much passed. Greyhawk Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13929743865700766901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-4638252548649853492015-07-01T14:05:05.054-04:002015-07-01T14:05:05.054-04:00Victor: Just to clarify, The Princes of the Apocal...Victor: Just to clarify, The Princes of the Apocalypse book is from Sasquatch Studios (Richard Baker)...by far the best book released so far for 5E (my view). WizKids did the current ToEE board game I believe and GF9 did the DM screen for the EE one.Tony T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03711808468914135400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-65558369884808658722015-07-01T14:02:56.445-04:002015-07-01T14:02:56.445-04:00You are pretty much on the mark, but the one thing...You are pretty much on the mark, but the one thing that the d20 license granted was the ability to actually state on one's book "For use with Dungeons & Dragons Player's Handbook" or words to that effect.<br /><br />Just being about to put the "Dungeons & Dragons" brand name on your supplement is a pretty big deal in terms of marketing. <br /><br />Even if they introduce a new license for 5e, I'd be surprised if it allowed even the smallest amount of D&D branding.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8689220660431242262015-07-01T13:15:18.707-04:002015-07-01T13:15:18.707-04:00(prolly just me but was having trouble editing my ...(prolly just me but was having trouble editing my original post, so I deleted it... lol)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03979465698462629194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-69383763393519100342015-07-01T13:14:41.905-04:002015-07-01T13:14:41.905-04:00I did a paper in college last term about the legal...I did a paper in college last term about the legal and ethical issues of the OGL. One of the research articles I read seem to indicate that Hasbro/Wizards had no intention (at the time of the article about 5-6 mos ago) of releasing one for 5th edition. Another article I used in my research indicated that the whole thing (OGL/D20/etc...) was just a formality and not actually necessary for publishers to use it as long as they abided by the actual (and quite vague) copyright laws already in place. The whole thing was a reaction to TSR's notoriety with suing other companies in the 70s. In order to get 3rd party publishers to help revitalize the market for tabletop RPGs when 3rd edition came out, the most notorious D20 came out, with several revisions as the years went by...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03979465698462629194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-14719382717353760632015-07-01T13:11:36.143-04:002015-07-01T13:11:36.143-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03979465698462629194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-31888301145721369972015-07-01T12:57:47.653-04:002015-07-01T12:57:47.653-04:00Personally, I don't think another OGL-like lic...Personally, I don't think another OGL-like licence is even necessary. The only licence they really should put out one that allows a 3pp to use IP such as the D&D name and other such things.Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655257343807723233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-74340609311321377852015-07-01T12:23:54.692-04:002015-07-01T12:23:54.692-04:00Compatibility isn't an issue, it's marketi...Compatibility isn't an issue, it's marketing. When 5e fans realize that there's great 5e content minus the official D&D 5th edition label, they'll have tons of choices. D&D players need to explore some of their less obvious options. <br /><br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-30798391350331673512015-07-01T12:20:54.241-04:002015-07-01T12:20:54.241-04:00I think they have it set up the way they intended ...I think they have it set up the way they intended already but it's not how people expected. Elemental Evil (from what I recall) was done with the Gale Force 9 people and the next one coming up is going to be done with the Green Ronin people. I don't think Wizards is ever going to do what they did with 3.5 and make a fully open OGL. It's going to be a third party, case-by-case licensee basis.Victor Wyatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13983700570355805705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-64510952506949580772015-07-01T12:18:37.875-04:002015-07-01T12:18:37.875-04:00I suspect there will not be one, or will be so cri...I suspect there will not be one, or will be so crippled that people who want to do compatible will continue to do what they are already doing.Purple Duck Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282361850364436932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-82546785548567662422015-07-01T12:14:21.441-04:002015-07-01T12:14:21.441-04:00I don't think there will be a license. I'd...I don't think there will be a license. I'd like to be proved wrong in that opinion, however.jgbrowninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16274622778419965618noreply@blogger.com