tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post7438960873758009753..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: What is Your Most Disliked RPG Setting?Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-27690814095954302932013-12-25T16:28:41.416-05:002013-12-25T16:28:41.416-05:00Love anything Gygaxian, not just Greyhawk but prod...Love anything Gygaxian, not just Greyhawk but products from Necromancer Games and other serious gaming systems like Rune Quest (mostly) and Ars Magica. <br /><br />FR because the awesome artwork sucked you into a vomit of high magic and unending expensive inane products. A brightly polished money-grab. <br /><br />DL because of the Kender, and the Gully Dwarves, and every thinly obscured theft from other fantasy worlds and the real world. <br /><br />Eberron because it was simply a hack mash-up that had nothing unique about it. Except perhaps the Dragon Prophecy and that was a topic about which PCs were very unlikely to know or learn anything significant - ever. That and it was so PC (politically correct) that it made you want to puke. <br /><br />Anything 4th Ed D&D. <br /><br />The Battle Grid (3.x D&D) as it hamstrings everything fun or spontaneous about the game... unless you're a munchkin Rules Lawyer. <br /><br />And to answer your question: No, I never played CoW. The cover art was a sufficient warning for me to avoid it. Mystara too btw. Yes, there are so many games to hate on.<br /><br />But mostly I hate growing up, getting out of college (with degree in hand), and live-action role-playing being an adult. This world may suck the worst of all of them. Thank you al qaeda and all those groups of people not so very different from you. You make this world suck and blow at the same time. Andrew Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04533209556962528035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2622678966149686392013-09-09T23:32:46.522-04:002013-09-09T23:32:46.522-04:00Forgotten Realms, because all of the extra baggage...Forgotten Realms, because all of the extra baggage.Hex Oxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03503933564866959945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-19824545047173604942013-09-07T03:24:30.822-04:002013-09-07T03:24:30.822-04:00I solved the Bigness problem by simply halving all...I solved the Bigness problem by simply halving all distances. :)Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-90525475202811685412013-09-06T19:08:11.024-04:002013-09-06T19:08:11.024-04:00Da Realms. Others have given the basics: bland and...Da Realms. Others have given the basics: bland and meh but workable at first, then got every stupid idea TSR could muster. Throw in the creator's pet Elmunchkin and the fact that it's so big that it is hard to get a handle on it.Charles Saegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368131505593336249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-84307058641622133192013-09-06T15:57:40.890-04:002013-09-06T15:57:40.890-04:00+Eric Tenkar, to your original question: Yes, not ...+Eric Tenkar, to your original question: Yes, not me but there is a very popular running on the setting over at roleplayinggames.net. <br /><br />As for person hated settings and I'm sure some people in the community will wish to kill me for this: Gamma World.Desahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406519864537714066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-7717638290425895912013-09-06T13:13:52.741-04:002013-09-06T13:13:52.741-04:00Early Forgotten realms was an ok psuedo tolkien wo...Early Forgotten realms was an ok psuedo tolkien world with some nice bits to steal - i didnt mind some of the region books (Jaquay one works as griffin mountain add on) - last TSR product i got was undercity - wild magic and killing gods made me lose interest - just got worse and worse - TSR strange psuedo history phaze of early 90s did so many lame things like marco polo, terrible aztec products, central asia and stuff hopelessly inferior to real history books which i got into because it was cheaper and better - Herodotus was more awesome than any game book ever. Mystara and realms killed by lazy real world rip offs. Glaantri book with venice type city was inspired exception though. Names based on history embarrassing bad.Konsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-13660404107870732062013-09-06T13:04:26.883-04:002013-09-06T13:04:26.883-04:00Ravenloft. I've never understood why D&D s...Ravenloft. I've never understood why D&D should be used for a pseudo-Victorian setting. Phersvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10962408594713963134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-54561445295248674502013-09-06T12:58:56.940-04:002013-09-06T12:58:56.940-04:00Princess ark i didn't like - i like the world ...Princess ark i didn't like - i like the world never like name (a competition winner) - gazetteers great and plenty of room for dm to move unlike every other tsr world<br />Konsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-60952813215026464352013-09-06T11:28:25.841-04:002013-09-06T11:28:25.841-04:00Forgotten Realms. And Krynn.Forgotten Realms. And Krynn.Nicolas "Ungoliant" Senachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10564991062528970332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-23392627946369298502013-09-06T11:09:15.679-04:002013-09-06T11:09:15.679-04:00Good point about Ravenloft, with regard to making ...Good point about Ravenloft, with regard to making the horrific commonplace...Anthony Simeonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-47133755580022620782013-09-06T10:47:38.483-04:002013-09-06T10:47:38.483-04:00Hmm, for the longest time it was Harn, but I'v...Hmm, for the longest time it was Harn, but I've changed my mind about it. I think any setting that is a book first then made into a setting. Like Kyrnn and Middle Earth. They just don't jive for me because they always seem desperate to stay true to the books even if makes the RPG experience suffer. <br /><br />That said, I love the Thieves World setting and the books. So I just contradicted myself.Gothridge Manorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11371740532802642972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-19004460881344750832013-09-06T09:32:46.391-04:002013-09-06T09:32:46.391-04:00Eberron. Steam punk magic ugh!Eberron. Steam punk magic ugh!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18112526467850820319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-60725780509441576682013-09-06T09:14:35.833-04:002013-09-06T09:14:35.833-04:00As fractalbat said below about Ravenloft, I like s...As fractalbat said below about Ravenloft, I like some of the individual pieces of the WOD (the Mages and mummies, for example). But taken as a whole, I agree, it's just too much. Plus I really don't like the Storyteller system.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-73113336093857725872013-09-06T09:09:13.521-04:002013-09-06T09:09:13.521-04:00Did you hate it prior to 1999? I find I now have ...Did you hate it prior to 1999? I find I now have to struggle to remember that there were once GOOD Star Wars movies.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-36133545075237343842013-09-06T09:07:10.092-04:002013-09-06T09:07:10.092-04:00"When horror is all there is, it's no lon..."When horror is all there is, it's no longer horror."<br /><br />I think this is a very common mistake where game designers (and authors, film makers, etc.) try to make their work relentlessly "dark" by omitting all humor, pathos, and positive emotions. What they don't seem to realize is that they thereby lose all contrast, and the effect is nil. You can't write in black ink on black paper and expect to convey any kind of message.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-1414736308942383192013-09-06T08:56:28.545-04:002013-09-06T08:56:28.545-04:00Krynn. It's just way too cutesy for me, and w...Krynn. It's just way too cutesy for me, and what isn't cutesy is stupid or drenched in religious overtones. I really don't like Tracy Hickman's work in general, especially not his fiction. In fact, I blame him personally for the entire genre of gaming fiction, which is almost invariably horrible to read.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-14599149764817510282013-09-06T08:12:01.654-04:002013-09-06T08:12:01.654-04:00Even if it seems all too obvious-- Forgotten Realm...Even if it seems all too obvious-- Forgotten Realms, for all the reasons already mentioned.賈尼https://www.blogger.com/profile/03207671300903490067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2119566631679074352013-09-06T08:03:29.237-04:002013-09-06T08:03:29.237-04:00I used to hate the Realms, but in reality I hated ...I used to hate the Realms, but in reality I hated the characters and the hype it got.<br />There are a lot of things I hate about Dragonlance too (gully dwarves, kender and gnomes) but not everything.<br /><br />But in truth I do hate any of them or even dislike. The worst I can about a world it that it doesn't inspire me.Timothy S. Brannanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02923526503305233715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-49696251624945274822013-09-06T07:25:41.003-04:002013-09-06T07:25:41.003-04:00FRFRMark Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14043010692931832448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-17761545256003221062013-09-06T06:00:34.445-04:002013-09-06T06:00:34.445-04:00Dragonlance, the Ansalon part. Most of the clichés...Dragonlance, the Ansalon part. Most of the clichés people ascribe to Tolkien actually originated here. All cultures present are boring. Kender are stupid. So are Tinker gnomes. I hate how the tinker somehow became the "standard" gnome.<br />However, I really like Taladas, as presented in the "Time of the Dragon" boxed set. The descriptions in that set were a bit dry, but the world is awesome.Jasper Polanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14304076684060757294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-56976883508540079332013-09-06T04:11:49.591-04:002013-09-06T04:11:49.591-04:00Forgotten Realms. Too much of a vanilla D&D ki...Forgotten Realms. Too much of a vanilla D&D kitchen-sink.Omer Golan-Joelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09242085820257230639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-33806058340839940892013-09-06T03:52:10.350-04:002013-09-06T03:52:10.350-04:00HarnHarnRaskalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04640506619703994755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-449496032938470442013-09-06T02:33:14.098-04:002013-09-06T02:33:14.098-04:00I'd have to say Mage the Awakening. The new ag...I'd have to say Mage the Awakening. The new age occult just doesn't jive with the rest of the World of Darkness for me. It might be fine asa pure fantasy setting but when put aside Werewolf the Forsaken and Vampire the the Requiem it rubs me the wrong way. It doesn't help that I can't stand the formatting of the core book.<br /><br />I actually love Council of Wyrms. It's pretty much the only second ed setting I still play on occasion.BlUsKrEEmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050270487818381832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-11094119638966976452013-09-06T02:20:08.466-04:002013-09-06T02:20:08.466-04:00I agree strongly about Ravenloft and Hammer Horror...I agree strongly about Ravenloft and Hammer Horror. HH is based on Victorian horror tropes, darkness in the light. An intrusion of evil into Merrie Englande, or the Count's castle squirreled away on the edge of civilised Europe, or devil worshippers on Guernsey. Total opposite of the Gnostic setup of Ravenloft and Masque of the Red Death where evil is all-pervasive.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-45002154794422772082013-09-06T02:15:45.245-04:002013-09-06T02:15:45.245-04:00I guess few settings beat that of Cyborg Commando ...I guess few settings beat that of Cyborg Commando for awfulness, though. :)<br /><br />As to D&D settings I dislike, well I really don't like Eberron at all, and Dark Sun takes away all the things I like about Sword & Planet romance (the 4e DS monster book would be great, though, for a John Carter type setting). But I'm willing to accept that's just personal taste.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01173759805310975320noreply@blogger.com