tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post6888484010560712370..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Vancian Magic - Light?Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8190458322211685012012-02-29T06:42:21.301-05:002012-02-29T06:42:21.301-05:00This post had me rethinking memorized spell effect...This post had me rethinking memorized spell effects. I've blogged some houserules here: <br>http://percentchancetoknow.blogspot.com/2012/02/magic-users-vancian-casting-spell.htmlProfessor Phttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12547375949991705390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-5711687731463647472012-02-28T16:06:17.342-05:002012-02-28T16:06:17.342-05:00Also, you can tweak the house rule above to only a...Also, you can tweak the house rule above to only allow a caster to select one of their first-level spell slots to count as an at-will spell (instead of all first level spells being at-will). So a MU that can cast 2 first-level spells can count one of those slots as an at-will spell.<br><br>This is all just brainstorming in an effort to come up with just a little bit more low-level flexibility for casters.Drancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-85137196472560937522012-02-28T16:03:48.090-05:002012-02-28T16:03:48.090-05:00Meh, I've always thought that Sleep should hav...Meh, I've always thought that Sleep should have a saving throw allowed for targets, anyway. Or at least that no-save HD threshold should be lowered. Plus, wizards are not invincible just because they can put a lot of creatures to sleep. There are creatures that are not affected by sleep, like the undead, that characters can run into. So unlimited Sleep spells do not equate to uber-powered low-level wizards, IMHO.Drancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-37846874710547725882012-02-28T15:44:24.472-05:002012-02-28T15:44:24.472-05:00And so giving the 1st level M-U with a sleep spell...And so giving the 1st level M-U with a sleep spell the unlimited ability to put down creatures up to 4+4 HD, no save allowed. That doesn't strike me as a good idea.Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03635743377768116998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-80688779995728547112012-02-28T13:52:39.171-05:002012-02-28T13:52:39.171-05:00What about this for a house rule (when playing Ori...What about this for a house rule (when playing Original/Basic D&D or Advanced D&D 1E or even 2E):<br><br>1st level spells = can be cast at-will, but caster is still limited to prepping spell slots. Therefore, a 1st level caster must select the spell that they will be casting at-will for an entire day. Changing this would still require the traditional full-night's rest.Drancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-57635592736477310652012-02-28T13:26:00.464-05:002012-02-28T13:26:00.464-05:00David, are you thinking about this:http://www.phil...David, are you thinking about this:<br>http://www.philotomy.com/#special_effects?Professor Phttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12547375949991705390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-82049162451116165102012-02-28T13:18:28.787-05:002012-02-28T13:18:28.787-05:00I can't remember where I saw it, but I ran acr...I can't remember where I saw it, but I ran across a really cool idea regarding Vancian magic. It basically allowed casters to perform very minor magics at-will, based on the spells they had memorized. So, a mage with Sleep might be able to help a companion fall asleep. Obviously this idea requires a lot of DM ruling and player cooperation, but I do think it is a neat idea.Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17820010482226879079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-38885275388175517412012-02-28T12:29:27.402-05:002012-02-28T12:29:27.402-05:00If an "unarmed" mage (one with no Vancia...If an "unarmed" mage (one with no Vancian spells left) and an unarmed fighter (one without a weapon) both did the same damage (mage with his cantrip and fighter with his punch) where is the harm. <br>At that point it is more about the esthetics than balance.<br><br>What is the difference between a mage saying "I throw my darts for 1d4 damage" or "I cast my cantrip for 1d4 damage"? One keeps it magical and one doesn't, but the net effect is the same.Callinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10588183535221978936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-68013864919909124952012-02-28T11:40:02.868-05:002012-02-28T11:40:02.868-05:00At-will spells very quickly become uninteresting. ...At-will spells very quickly become uninteresting. "I cast <i>yet another</i> magic missile, whoopie." I played a couple of 4e spell casters and none of them had anywhere near the mystique of an AD&D magic-user with his one spell a day.Chrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03635743377768116998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-53325823789542089812012-02-28T10:41:45.430-05:002012-02-28T10:41:45.430-05:00Hmmm, I might be interested in this, actually. I k...Hmmm, I might be interested in this, actually. I know, major heresy on my part, right? But if they don't go crazy on the at-will thing, and just give wizards a few options to use, then I might be alright with it. Call me crazy, but there you go.Drancehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04312134763577949405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-20965645348018974672012-02-28T10:38:16.831-05:002012-02-28T10:38:16.831-05:00It would be nice to know, what spells would be at ...It would be nice to know, what spells would be at will powers...<br><br>As more and more is leaked, the less I desire to even look at the game.<br><br>ERIC!Erichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18251132223571608976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-25967663828333573362012-02-28T10:38:12.514-05:002012-02-28T10:38:12.514-05:00It would be nice to know, what spells would be at ...It would be nice to know, what spells would be at will powers...<br><br>As more and more is leaked, the less I desire to even look at the game.<br><br>ERIC!Erichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18251132223571608976noreply@blogger.com