tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post4656684138203279018..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: The PM that got Frank Mentzer Banned from DragonsfootTenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger170125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-83093402012895779062018-06-23T07:09:25.618-04:002018-06-23T07:09:25.618-04:00DF would rather keep trolls than people who tell t...DF would rather keep trolls than people who tell trolls to leave. <br />Honestly the smartest move for Frank would to have never engaged someone like EOTB. I'm a bit disappointed that Frank thinks there is some kind of privacy law that protected private messages. And I'm disappointed that Frank is now claiming that he never sent that message when it is easy for the DF admins to confirm from the logs.<br />I'll still buy Frank's stuff. Nothing he did there offends me.Jon Mayohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08800818795207393909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-56418276638583352762017-10-28T03:10:00.949-04:002017-10-28T03:10:00.949-04:00EOTB's "here are his 2015 PMs" post ...EOTB's "here are his 2015 PMs" post is trolling as heck.<br /><br />Think about Adam on the youtube series "Adam Ruins Everything".<br />He is consistent with a specific personality type.<br />Now reread what Frank (supposedly) quoted of ETOB in those PMs ..<br />"You can always choose what to bet your credibility on."<br />"So .. do you think the authors had much less talent? Or were aiming lower?"<br /><br />Two supposed ETOB quotes. Look at the 2nd one and think of the statement "Were you born in a barn or were you raised to be ignorant?" That is not a question but rather an insult phrased as a question because it supposes that one or the other were true, and is done so both to frustrate the target and get the audience on the speakers side (trying to figure out which is more likely true). It is a clear trolling technique.D M Zwerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016702498241157173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-75432633925053690062017-09-19T06:44:55.403-04:002017-09-19T06:44:55.403-04:00I just noticed that Dragonsfoot has apparrently re...I just noticed that Dragonsfoot has apparrently removed Frank's Q&A thread(s) from their site. The last time I looked a few days ago the thread was just locked.<br /><br />I know those Q&A sessions go back over a decade.JRThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06028363896728357260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-65035230655690720632017-09-18T21:53:50.372-04:002017-09-18T21:53:50.372-04:00Also, is this a bad time to point out to Frank tha...Also, is this a bad time to point out to Frank that the Town of Dragonsfoot was created by Ryan Coombs? <br /><br />I know I, for one, eagerly look forward to Frank's withering criticism of "Nostril of the Beholder" from "the Town of Dragon-Toe." Positively Swiftian!Gnarley Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11942095647867654862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-88453494879222898902017-09-16T23:56:54.626-04:002017-09-16T23:56:54.626-04:00Like I said, it is possible. As you say, it is not...Like I said, it is possible. As you say, it is not very probable.ravencrowkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315630554847698555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-47153079126795391792017-09-16T17:43:14.886-04:002017-09-16T17:43:14.886-04:00"...the PM appears to be a slightly more vigo..."...the PM appears to be a slightly more vigorous continuation of the threat leveled in the DF thread itself."<br /><br />To me this is the key point. Furthermore, unless time stamps have been forged, the PM actually PRECEDES the similar statement made by Mr. Mentzer (as he acknowledges) in the public post. It belies credulity that Mr. Mentzer would just happen to make statements quite similar to those made by a putative hacker shortly before, and which he would have no way to know about at the time (since he states he never saw the PM prior to it being posted on Tenkar's Tavern).<br /><br />Saying "I was hacked" like a husband caught with an Ashley Madison account is really beneath the dignity of a man of Mr. Mentzer's age and accomplishments.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22463008032209707082017-09-16T15:21:12.761-04:002017-09-16T15:21:12.761-04:00Jason Bossert: unstoppers decanter of endless agre...Jason Bossert: unstoppers decanter of endless agreement.Gnarley Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11942095647867654862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-44761435823187805382017-09-16T13:55:39.939-04:002017-09-16T13:55:39.939-04:00They just sit in your inbox unless you delete them...They just sit in your inbox unless you delete them. But sure, he saved them for just this purpose. The evil mastermind. <br /><br />Certainly more plausible than some guy hacking Frank's account from inside his home for the sole purpose of sending a mean fake message, I tell you wgat.<br />Jmoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10714529396023755545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-48167707042889014672017-09-16T13:26:27.407-04:002017-09-16T13:26:27.407-04:00What kind of sleezeball saves messages from 2 year...What kind of sleezeball saves messages from 2 years ago? EOTB, that's who.<br /><br />The bizarre circling of wagons around him from the DF staff is perhaps the most puzzling part of this whole story.<br /><br />Why is DF protecting EOTB?pizzlepopopohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567345012798815434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71849447363261117422017-09-16T12:52:05.174-04:002017-09-16T12:52:05.174-04:00Some opinions:
* I saw no trolling from EOTB, and...Some opinions:<br /><br />* I saw no trolling from EOTB, and I have had fruitful discussions with him in the past. <br /><br />* Reasonable discussions can often seem like trolling on the Internet, where you don't get facial expressions and body language. There is an "If *I* said that, it would mean...." which occurs that has nothing to do with what is intended by the author.<br /><br />* FM has accused me of trolling him when I definitely was not doing so, although I did disagree with his position. Reading his responses, I had no idea why he was drawing the conclusions he did about what I said. I still have no idea. In some cases, I was agreeing with him. Other threads included some exchanges that were more abrasive than those with EOTB.<br /><br />* That said, FM has never, in any way, threatened me. The PM screenshot in this thread is shocking. It is possible that this is not FM.<br /><br />* However, I trust the DF moderators in general, and the PM appears to be a slightly more vigorous continuation of the threat leveled in the DF thread itself.<br /><br />I haven't been to DF often recently because they aren't focused on DCC, which is my current game of choice by a long shot, but I do go there, and this incident will not change that. ravencrowkinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09315630554847698555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-72072254207200295632017-09-15T17:40:03.449-04:002017-09-15T17:40:03.449-04:00I saw no trolling.I saw no trolling.RandomEncounterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853555582592024107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-5655703892899496242017-09-15T16:31:44.388-04:002017-09-15T16:31:44.388-04:00Does one need to have "done something" t...Does one need to have "done something" to be treated in a civil manner?Ian Dimitrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276861112098462782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-83891617341337821852017-09-15T13:36:07.462-04:002017-09-15T13:36:07.462-04:00Just who the fuck is EOTB? Of course, besides bein...Just who the fuck is EOTB? Of course, besides being a rat for trolling a 67 year old dude who, in my opinion, deserves to be treated with respect as much for his age as his work of life. <br /><br />Did this EOTB guy give the hobby anything ever?Chomyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11511246862191949076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-73644242904583205342017-09-15T11:36:38.528-04:002017-09-15T11:36:38.528-04:00Mentzerbaiting: the practice of trolling RPG lumin...Mentzerbaiting: the practice of trolling RPG luminaries known to have over-inflated egos for the purposes of eliciting the most megalomaniacal response.Donaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534671460703868048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-82288908397525843102017-09-15T11:04:48.439-04:002017-09-15T11:04:48.439-04:00Sounds like his project is off to a heck of a star...Sounds like his project is off to a heck of a start! ;)Gnarley Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11942095647867654862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-19372669562707519762017-09-15T09:21:50.058-04:002017-09-15T09:21:50.058-04:00Shadow you forgot 4) threatening legal action, and...Shadow you forgot 4) threatening legal action, and 5) Using capitalization for Emphasis.<br /><br />And compared to the 2015 PM it is relatively the same, as well.RandomEncounterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853555582592024107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-64594744543221857202017-09-15T09:18:29.033-04:002017-09-15T09:18:29.033-04:00And? Looks like another threat of legal action.......And? Looks like another threat of legal action.... lolRandomEncounterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853555582592024107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71327169097550888212017-09-15T09:14:38.790-04:002017-09-15T09:14:38.790-04:00LOLLOLRandomEncounterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853555582592024107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-65006846921603471562017-09-15T09:11:09.743-04:002017-09-15T09:11:09.743-04:00I actually have to agree with B.C.
EOTB posts I s...I actually have to agree with B.C.<br /><br />EOTB posts I saw are argumentative (in what amounts to a debate basically), but not trollish. Blanket statements like 'Sure you can be a dick' are actually more troll-like?RandomEncounterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10853555582592024107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-32651036749345878062017-09-15T08:15:32.795-04:002017-09-15T08:15:32.795-04:00Sorry- "K&K"?Sorry- "K&K"? JTChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10663126096238204254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-85640069477825423382017-09-15T08:06:52.352-04:002017-09-15T08:06:52.352-04:00Jay Hassan: Read his own words:
http://knights-n-...Jay Hassan: Read his own words:<br /><br />http://knights-n-knaves.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14851&start=60#p233902pizzlepopopohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567345012798815434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-70900146341429378242017-09-15T05:35:15.545-04:002017-09-15T05:35:15.545-04:00I think it's what makes the whole thing intere...I think it's what makes the whole thing interesting. Imagine, bad press after a major falling out with one of the "cornerstones" of the Osr world over what?<br /><br />I think if people are going to judge FM on this they need all the posts leading up to this for a clear picture because there is nothing scarier on the internet to deal with than a group of trolls with the backing of the admins of a forum. I've seem that in the lord of the Rings Online forums and I'd hate to see that happen to FM here especially given that alot of people have dreamed about this project since its hints many many moons ago.Firemanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15928393084665951918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-42804467123059802532017-09-15T02:29:21.105-04:002017-09-15T02:29:21.105-04:00That sure is a crap load of bad press before a pro...That sure is a crap load of bad press before a project. What a pompous and arrogant posting.Ian Dimitrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276861112098462782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-82463697778615342212017-09-14T23:09:08.234-04:002017-09-14T23:09:08.234-04:00You keep posting that, pizzle, but provide no proo...You keep posting that, pizzle, but provide no proof. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306691825090308082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-33305459055526701072017-09-14T23:05:08.636-04:002017-09-14T23:05:08.636-04:00Subpoenas? Combing through confiscated computers? ...Subpoenas? Combing through confiscated computers? Over a whiny forum message that one party denies sending?<br /><br />You can't be serious Alex. This isn't CSI. That isn't how the legal system works. <br /><br />And there is a 0% chance of any lawyers getting involved.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13306691825090308082noreply@blogger.com