tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post3394827913918216355..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: WTF Were They Thinking? Tournament of Rapists (OGL)Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-10830908934411678362015-09-02T14:54:16.976-04:002015-09-02T14:54:16.976-04:00People have a right to not be offended?!People have a right to not be offended?!Bryan Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12183443367798037491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22078765169314475662015-08-31T12:50:56.418-04:002015-08-31T12:50:56.418-04:00Also, people who were sent a copy as a bullying pr...Also, people who were sent a copy as a bullying prank report it has a "Triggered" feat that gives a bonus for attacking sexual assault victims, which is... yeah.Nezumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15919226245219984292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-42211012072659658692015-08-31T12:09:39.254-04:002015-08-31T12:09:39.254-04:00The real question is: will anyone buy it to find o...The real question is: will anyone buy it to find out? And if they did, will they admit it in a non ironic way?Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-70174852627794123042015-08-31T12:07:08.987-04:002015-08-31T12:07:08.987-04:00LOL it wasn't that bad, and I think you and I ...LOL it wasn't that bad, and I think you and I are both horribly jaded. I think I was more just in to pointing out that a video depiction of people getting faces and heads cut off gets a pass by most these days, but a bad CGI book with rapists on the cover is a major trigger word for the internet. It's more or less another "you can shoot people on TV but don't dare show a boob" scenarios. <br /><br />Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2431939130640009592015-08-31T00:20:14.515-04:002015-08-31T00:20:14.515-04:00The customer owes you nothing Chris. When you use ...The customer owes you nothing Chris. When you use a title like that you only have yourself to blame for a backlash. As a victim of said crime and an RPG professional (cartographer and publisher) how am I supposed to react to a title 'Tournament of rapists'? It's like writing a scenario book called 'Exterminate the Jews' and then when complain saying it's a game based on a Dalek invasion of israel.<br /><br />Its bad, offensive, and a subject thats treated really badly. No matter who you are we HAVE to criticise it because the next idiot will think its ok to produce Peodorast: The RPG or something if we dont.Stephanie Desolation Angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04708023288981538815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-54787124709549776342015-08-29T17:18:43.608-04:002015-08-29T17:18:43.608-04:00Do you think this is a good product?Do you think this is a good product?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17793747524509341262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-69773097137827384632015-08-29T13:24:56.763-04:002015-08-29T13:24:56.763-04:00I mean the rape cases get sickening, not Mariska. ...I mean the rape cases get sickening, not Mariska. She's still super-fine.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-70611333479647421852015-08-29T13:22:55.824-04:002015-08-29T13:22:55.824-04:00So? You could make something called "Eat Fre...So? You could make something called "Eat Fresh: The Game of Trolling for Underage Tail" and some people would buy it and play it (possibly a lot of people, unfortunately). That doesn't mean the rest of us couldn't call the game creator on his disgusting lack of taste and proportion. "Rape-Murder the RPG" falls into a similar category.<br /><br />(Yes, I know: the author says this is actually a Monster Manual of rape gangs or some damn thing. I don't need that either.)TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-70855454653800173202015-08-29T13:17:50.130-04:002015-08-29T13:17:50.130-04:00Frankly, I find Law and Order: SVU fairly distaste...Frankly, I find Law and Order: SVU fairly distasteful as well. I've seen every episode of the original Law and Order (some many times) but probably no more than 1/4 of the episodes of SVU - and that's in spite of having a crush on Mariska Hargitay. It just gets sickening after a while.TheShadowKnowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11073693648569864707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-81265375846235008272015-08-28T20:58:06.870-04:002015-08-28T20:58:06.870-04:00And for the record, I NEVER use the preview featur...And for the record, I NEVER use the preview features on RPGNOW/OBS. Not sure why, but I just let the brand/title/author/blurb do the selling and either buy/download or move on based on that. I imagine there's a good chunk of users who browse similarly.chatdemonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556014933064003125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-55240561383242160852015-08-28T20:50:22.204-04:002015-08-28T20:50:22.204-04:00I agree with Steve regarding the blurb/"sell ...I agree with Steve regarding the blurb/"sell text". Said the same on the product page (as Richard T on RPGNow). In the context of "these are some nasty bastards your PCs get to destroy", I really don't have a problem with the concept, I guess. Kind of "Law & Order: SVU" taken to an NC17 Anime extreme. I've used graphic depictions of evil in my home games in the past to inspire the players to really WANT to defeat an enemy, rather than just follow the dungeon railroad to its final stop at the end boss, so I "get it".<br /><br />But, one extra sentence to the effect of "A collection of NPC villains/monsters to challenge heroic PCs in the Dark Tokyo campaign" would probably relieve a lot of concerns about the product.<br /><br />On the other hand, the interwebz rage over the product is probably giving the product a lot more publicity, so...chatdemonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14556014933064003125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-86164636117463205162015-08-28T20:00:54.114-04:002015-08-28T20:00:54.114-04:00The full preview was just a grey screen for me; it...The full preview was just a grey screen for me; it never loaded. My point still stands anyway. The sell copy could be better.Steve Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263633883997493518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-69982915949222806212015-08-28T17:50:04.326-04:002015-08-28T17:50:04.326-04:00Venger, David and Erik have said what needed to be...Venger, David and Erik have said what needed to be said. I just wanted to point out that Timothy's comment made me laugh. :PBrunohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01448568062628550613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-32449661533996036762015-08-28T17:45:50.728-04:002015-08-28T17:45:50.728-04:00I guess my faith in humanity is not what it was, I...I guess my faith in humanity is not what it was, I'll admit as much. xDBrunohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01448568062628550613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-3276276484712754942015-08-28T16:17:24.179-04:002015-08-28T16:17:24.179-04:00Your pitch is offensive to many and you expect the...Your pitch is offensive to many and you expect the offended to download a preview? <br /><br />If a pitch offends me why would I want to download a preview? <br /><br />You get one chance to hook a potential customer. Why make them jump through extra steps to figure out what your product REALLY is?Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-53744385237765107672015-08-28T15:47:39.703-04:002015-08-28T15:47:39.703-04:00"It is the responsibility of the seller to ma..."It is the responsibility of the seller to make the information needed needed for the consumer to make an informed choice obvious and plain."<br /><br />And a full size, easily legible preview of a book doesn't do that? <br />Chris A. Fieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861255455468441444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-80798550596141579462015-08-28T15:25:44.964-04:002015-08-28T15:25:44.964-04:00Chris - you gave all flavor text and no details in...Chris - you gave all flavor text and no details in your blurb. It is NOT the responsibility of potential buyers to look at the preview. It is the responsibility of the seller to make the information needed for the consumer to make an informed choice obvious and plain.<br /><br />You didn't.<br /><br />Don't blame others for failing to take extra steps when you didnt make the basic ones.<br /><br />You are basically saying your sales pitch is misleading. How is that an answer?<br /><br />If it's a book of stats, use your flavor text and THEN explain what the book is presenting. Don't leave it to others to figure out your intentions.<br />Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-12149955508141150572015-08-28T14:45:33.286-04:002015-08-28T14:45:33.286-04:00Okay, I'll bite on the sell text problem. I di...Okay, I'll bite on the sell text problem. I did not specifically make it clear this was a bestiary in the sell text, however, I did make the book available in both PDF and flash previews. You can go to the sell page, see there's about 500 words of history and background on the Rape Pure and its founder, than straight into stat-blocks. Shouldn't that indicate to the buyer this is a collection of monsters to fight just from obvious context? <br /><br /> There is (and this is intentional), no selection of new gear, feats, spells, powers or other rules ephemera that usually indicates to D20 or PFRPG players that the content is for them, to use to power-up their characters. Just stat-blocks which to gamers is the universal sign for: "Kill It and Take Its Stuff."<br /><br />Nobody has to buy this book to have a right to criticize it, or me, but I would feel that it's at least your responsibility to leaf through the flash preview and see the most obvious elements of the text before you start. <br /><br />Chris A. Fieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10861255455468441444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-49903008155624145152015-08-28T13:36:27.280-04:002015-08-28T13:36:27.280-04:00Being outraged by the existence of something one d...Being outraged by the existence of something one doesn't care for appears to be par for the course these days. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-81911036751489810712015-08-28T13:23:24.041-04:002015-08-28T13:23:24.041-04:00;)
;)<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22442173582357287402015-08-28T12:13:18.605-04:002015-08-28T12:13:18.605-04:00Nicholas, it did not occur to me that that trailer...Nicholas, it did not occur to me that that trailer would offend anyone, but I'm probably just jaded to cartoony violence. It was not my intent to shock or traumatize anyone. Sorry! I'll add a trigger warning. Mike Monacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11474135378521139178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-21492055441882419122015-08-28T09:32:34.679-04:002015-08-28T09:32:34.679-04:00BoVD isn't collectable? Well crap, haven't...BoVD isn't collectable? Well crap, haven't checked prices on that lately. Ah well, maybe one day.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-15894973093047038102015-08-28T08:37:01.447-04:002015-08-28T08:37:01.447-04:00I've made exactly ZERO sales via my referrals ...I've made exactly ZERO sales via my referrals at RPGNow for ToR over the last day and a half.<br /><br />My readers are more discerning than you give them credit for ;)Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71141704540743374782015-08-28T08:34:44.889-04:002015-08-28T08:34:44.889-04:00Chris, are you saying the blurb on the product'...Chris, are you saying the blurb on the product's page is inaccurate? Because no where in the text I quoted above is any mention of "stat-blocks for rapists and sexual predators, who exist literally only to be destroyed by the heroic player characters." Did I miss it? <br /><br />Venger, I tip my hat to you. Well said.Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71536970046405555352015-08-28T07:21:07.134-04:002015-08-28T07:21:07.134-04:00This difference is simple.
Law and Order SVU _dea...This difference is simple.<br /><br />Law and Order SVU _deals_ with the issues, and works through them.<br /><br />This appears to glorify and celebrate the same issues.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17793747524509341262noreply@blogger.com