tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post3295743921344516979..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Another WTF are They Thinking Kickstarter - Drastic MeasuresTenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-83927101587839885842014-11-09T15:19:37.436-05:002014-11-09T15:19:37.436-05:00Why kickstart? Make the rules PDF, put on RPGNow. ...Why kickstart? Make the rules PDF, put on RPGNow. Look how many you sell, how much people download and pay if PWYW. If a success then kickstart a "deluxe" version!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04674233268949925440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-92210481146806404152014-11-07T17:30:56.150-05:002014-11-07T17:30:56.150-05:00Thx Parrish! Thx Parrish! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-3386095606454961352014-11-07T15:57:56.718-05:002014-11-07T15:57:56.718-05:00I like how this project is saying, "you can p...I like how this project is saying, "you can play an miniature based game without all that expense". It could be the gateway drug. I think maybe the discription could be a lot better, but I like the idea even if I am not into wargames. I disagree with one dollar being too expensive for a PDF of the rules. Good luck Jason.Parrishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865183160676268484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-75159614760662272212014-11-07T15:45:53.121-05:002014-11-07T15:45:53.121-05:00Yes kill the kickstarter go back to the drawing bo...Yes kill the kickstarter go back to the drawing board and look at what successful kickstarters at your funding level produced to reach there goal. The item your offering should be created on your dime and time and then you release it into the world to see if there is an interest. You will NOT make your goal even if you lowered it to 250 bucks since no one is going to spend money on a no named person who put almost no effort into there campaign and has NO DEMO.<br /><br />To be honest your kickstarter comes off as a money grab and that boat has sailed for people like you on kickstarter. If you want a quick buck why not just create some milled dice or a dice bag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-40839252969258630992014-11-07T12:12:30.714-05:002014-11-07T12:12:30.714-05:00Still too expensive. Still too expensive. Flambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-78488197743743251222014-11-07T11:26:35.527-05:002014-11-07T11:26:35.527-05:00Alright, for anyone still reading this, I just dro...Alright, for anyone still reading this, I just dropped the price of the rules for Drastic Measures to $1.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-20058900100831217132014-11-07T11:17:44.045-05:002014-11-07T11:17:44.045-05:00I mean it's five bucks for a .pdf file. It'...I mean it's five bucks for a .pdf file. It's a starting point. There's a big step from where I am now to producing the game in full plastic. I want to see if people are interested enough. I could and would totally just give away the rules to people who will actually care enough to read them. The five bucks is just showing interest. Should I lower it to a dollar? Should I just kill the kickstarter? Do you even want to read the rules? I'm not asking rhetorically or sarcastically. I genuinely want to know how interested you are. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-76882750819533073692014-11-07T11:01:55.858-05:002014-11-07T11:01:55.858-05:00Yup!Yup!Andre Michael Pietroschekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14452250639628974836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-55437332188430692482014-11-07T11:00:31.966-05:002014-11-07T11:00:31.966-05:00Doug, I agree with you that's it not ready for...Doug, I agree with you that's it not ready for prime time. Without testing the waters with a relatively low-budget kickstarter project, I would have no way to know how the community feels. If my project doesn't get backed, so be it, I've lost nothing. Going to a gaming convention is definitely in my future, and backing a project on kickstarter is something I'd love to do. Thank you for your well wishes, and please know in you heart that no one should ever touch buffet sushi. XDAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-27246315351723073742014-11-07T10:57:15.583-05:002014-11-07T10:57:15.583-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-16686137150199273412014-11-07T10:55:22.342-05:002014-11-07T10:55:22.342-05:00I'm not sure if this is the correct place for ...I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this but since you asked. The problem with your Kickstarter is that you aren't actually raising money to produce a product rather you are raising money to explore the idea of producing a product. Maybe that's a legitimate use of Kickstarter but it's not going to get my money. I contribute to Kickstarter in order to invest in an actual finished product not to help people develop their ideas. <br /><br />You say "My vision is a large plastic tub with 10 players' worth of units, custom terrain, dice, rules, unit coasters, and a reusable scoreboard. Retail ~ $60." If that's what you were offering in this Kickstarter and the minis were cool and you had some details about what the finished rule book would look like, you could have my money all day. You have a really fun idea, it's not original mind you, see "Fuzzy Heroes," but it's definitely fun, however, it is not ready for Prime Time. <br /><br />If you believe in this product, my recommendation is that you invest your own time and money in procuring supplies, doing the research, talk to some sculptors and manufacturers, maybe look into 3D printing and come back to Kickstarter when you have something more concrete to offer, as in an actual product I would be excited about buying. goeticgeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806200047269447375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8462614958947688692014-11-07T10:41:19.964-05:002014-11-07T10:41:19.964-05:00Jason, take your game and a couple tubs of figures...Jason, take your game and a couple tubs of figures to a game convention or three. Playtest it there. No one is going to steal your idea. <br /><br />In addition to not understanding that one cannot patent game rules, you have never backed a Kickstarter project, and you have no game design credits to your name. Your description and pictures indicate the game isn't ready for prime time. And playtesting isn't finished. These things are called "red flags." <br /><br />There are enough red flags that I can see a future update saying "Well, I had to spend all your money setting up a corporation and flying my design team to Vegas so we could attend CES. Picked up some weird virus (maybe from the buffet sushi?) and have been unable to progress much on the game these past three months."<br /><br />Good luck.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15657793356913767894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-12084044107546409452014-11-07T10:11:04.185-05:002014-11-07T10:11:04.185-05:00My email is bonsaizealotry@gmail.com. If anyone h...My email is bonsaizealotry@gmail.com. If anyone here has time and/or interest enough to look over the rules and provide opinions regarding more than just the idea of the game, please correspond. I can totally understand why "more than casual' gamers might see this as a pointless idea. It might very well even BE a pointless idea. I hope it wasn't too much to jump on here and defend my idea. Although I was a bit hurt by the comments, please know they are helpful. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-9209987268363408102014-11-07T09:49:48.045-05:002014-11-07T09:49:48.045-05:00If i don't patent it, someone could steal it. ...If i don't patent it, someone could steal it. Simply put, in order to publicize I must consider getting it copyrighted at least.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-33948194327706119852014-11-07T09:48:47.089-05:002014-11-07T09:48:47.089-05:00There are also T-Rex, Pterodactyl, Velociraptor an...There are also T-Rex, Pterodactyl, Velociraptor and Stogosaurus. The "Bite Roll" is exclusive to the carnivorous dinosaurs. Triceratops has a "Charge Roll" which has the potential to kill more enemy units than the "Bite Roll" but uses a D8 instead of a D6, which allows for room for fails, being that a triceratops charge is more uncertain that a t-rex's bite. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2135198188789941482014-11-07T09:45:45.497-05:002014-11-07T09:45:45.497-05:00The rule book takes SECONDS to consult. A ten min...The rule book takes SECONDS to consult. A ten minute argument is easily avoided. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-13373342266828067142014-11-07T09:44:09.811-05:002014-11-07T09:44:09.811-05:00All dice are fairly cheap. Spending $5 on a full ...All dice are fairly cheap. Spending $5 on a full set of dice is nothing in comparison to what people spend on collectible games. This is the middle ground between $20 board-games and collectible games.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-70663027596576879272014-11-07T09:39:02.282-05:002014-11-07T09:39:02.282-05:00Drastic Measures uses all the dice types to incorp...Drastic Measures uses all the dice types to incorporate numerous probabilities. A "Scout Roll" is only a D4 because a Scout looking through his binoculars isn't as volatile as a "Mutiny Roll" on the pirates, which uses a D12. I'd absolutely love to send a copy of the rules to you guys to see what you really think, instead of a bunch of dumb jokes about someone else's project. I've been working on this for years. Drastic Measures came out of a desire to play Warhammer without spending money or painting with toothpicks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8490462265763433552014-11-07T09:32:12.988-05:002014-11-07T09:32:12.988-05:00I'd love some constructive feedback. My rules...I'd love some constructive feedback. My rules are MUCH more complex that Plastic Hell. For regular people, D&D is definitely "hardcore". It takes more time, patience, and skill to play than a standard board game. This project has a low goal because I'm not trying to make money. I started out with a really low financial goal, and kickstarter said I should increase it. You can go write some rules that are similar. Mine are better though, I assure you. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13098296102207363267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-62607009435264724352014-11-07T08:10:11.932-05:002014-11-07T08:10:11.932-05:00Sorry if this is a double post, I'm not sure i...Sorry if this is a double post, I'm not sure if my first attempt went through. Here is a free set of rules that already do this:<br />http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/141885/plastic-hellJasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08591732711942061417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-62525449988156206622014-11-07T06:56:47.608-05:002014-11-07T06:56:47.608-05:00a blog could achieve all this easily - anyone coul...a blog could achieve all this easily - anyone could do it - just take photos and show some cool battlesKonsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-18973283795816324322014-11-07T06:55:12.088-05:002014-11-07T06:55:12.088-05:00now i have mars attacks rules will use for all my ...now i have mars attacks rules will use for all my toy based games for kids<br />Konsumterrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18170560484656800416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-53574346890648293282014-11-07T06:49:02.217-05:002014-11-07T06:49:02.217-05:00I actually played couple of games back in the day ...I actually played couple of games back in the day using Tom Moldways Dino Wars rules from Dragon MAgazine.Jonashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11838302056850766272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-64572329448846930352014-11-07T05:15:28.237-05:002014-11-07T05:15:28.237-05:0012d6 would be much more fun to roll. :-)12d6 would be much more fun to roll. :-)GreyKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07573812542452845497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-77855859681310807422014-11-07T03:09:31.697-05:002014-11-07T03:09:31.697-05:00Drastic Measures...that says it all.Drastic Measures...that says it all.Tony T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03711808468914135400noreply@blogger.com