tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post2740074536934735095..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Peering Into The Tavern's Scrying Pool - What Could Make 5e a Game Changer?Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-9698075807074003442014-05-30T06:17:48.714-04:002014-05-30T06:17:48.714-04:00I think the point of debate is whether the OGL rea...I think the point of debate is whether the OGL really created the competitor, or WOTC/Hasbro's failure to give their customers what they want. <br /><br />Both seem necessary ingredients.jrodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06567198770927408479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-11358647336730588592014-05-26T21:03:19.800-04:002014-05-26T21:03:19.800-04:00Yes I was a gamer in the 80s.. I started in 78 act...Yes I was a gamer in the 80s.. I started in 78 actually.. But I still think that the game has a chance to be just as strong just because much of the stigma of being a D&D player AKA The Nerd isn't as heavy. IF anything the problem is the over saturation of the market.. mostly with Retro-Clones.. The Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670101962259531452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-83279885539985224262014-05-26T00:18:32.798-04:002014-05-26T00:18:32.798-04:00Hi!
Agreed. I think many RPG consumers confuse go...Hi!<br /><br />Agreed. I think many RPG consumers confuse good for them as good for WOTC. The OGL gave WOTC nothing but a competitor. WOTC or more accurately Hasbro will never let that happen again.<br /><br />Peterprimarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094763705674212979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-79535500649814579272014-05-25T22:39:26.437-04:002014-05-25T22:39:26.437-04:00there is no comparison to D&D in the late 1e, ...there is no comparison to D&D in the late 1e, early 2e days of the game.<br /><br />you couldn't spit without hitting a gamer. game shops were everywhere it seems, and they were making money off of selling rpgs.<br /><br />then MTG exploded on the scene. TSR tried twice, with Spellfire and Dragon Dice, to catch that same wave. They failed, and the RPG hobby has never been the same since.Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-41762807198475122562014-05-25T22:32:28.818-04:002014-05-25T22:32:28.818-04:00The Dave - were you gaming in the 80's? I ask ...The Dave - were you gaming in the 80's? I ask this because the difference between the popularity of RPGs in the 80's and now is at least 1 order of magnitude. <br /><br />WotC should have launched 4e as a boardgame. Jason Zavodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109502376214104276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-67703136806200895322014-05-25T21:53:31.159-04:002014-05-25T21:53:31.159-04:00As a heavy Pathfinder player, I think the one thin...As a heavy Pathfinder player, I think the one thing that WOTC could do better is in how they structure their modules. I think the PF adventures are a cludgy and unorganized mess, plus they consistently refer you to their other books both for monsters and treasure. If WOTC will stat the creatures and treasure in the module itself, that would be a big win over Paizo. If you take a look at Mines of Madness, one of the adventures given out with the playtest.. To me this is how its done right.. I love the encounter sheets at the end..The Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670101962259531452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8500965130083132362014-05-25T21:47:10.496-04:002014-05-25T21:47:10.496-04:00Jason even with the advent of computers and consol...Jason even with the advent of computers and consoles I don't see the market as dwindling.. The Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670101962259531452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-1989672744757648532014-05-25T21:13:11.162-04:002014-05-25T21:13:11.162-04:00But on the other hand, there is a market between t...But on the other hand, there is a market between the smaller table and the larger computer games: card and board games. I think there's a Mearl's quote that the starter set is geared towards helping a board or card gamer into a dungeon master. That would be smart but difficult.redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04600098550347299095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-34351791358014220522014-05-25T20:37:41.247-04:002014-05-25T20:37:41.247-04:00Unless 5e is released with a large magic EMP blast...Unless 5e is released with a large magic EMP blast that destroys every game console and computer and increases world literacy at most they might grab a larger share of the dwindling niche market that is pen and pencil RPGs. Jason Zavodahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109502376214104276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-23806403605340726582014-05-25T16:19:05.363-04:002014-05-25T16:19:05.363-04:00as you said, Paizo is making the OGL work for them...as you said, Paizo is making the OGL work for them - WotC get's nothing for it.<br /><br />the OGL was a genie that WotC could not control. The GSL was a failed attempt to put the genie back in the bottle.<br /><br />remember, unqualified success for D&D does not necessarily make it a success for WotC - the end game is profit, not play Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-40041110048882717212014-05-25T16:16:24.639-04:002014-05-25T16:16:24.639-04:00I think it's almost a given they will grab a l...I think it's almost a given they will grab a larger share than they had with 4e. As for knocking Pathfinder off it's perch...Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-5867220200078919142014-05-25T15:49:22.707-04:002014-05-25T15:49:22.707-04:00not sure what you mean by "game changer."...not sure what you mean by "game changer." does that mean you think D&D will recapture marketplace? Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-11972783243843991672014-05-25T12:54:04.993-04:002014-05-25T12:54:04.993-04:00I disagree with the notion that the OGL was bad fo...I disagree with the notion that the OGL was bad for WotC. Other than the Glory Days of the late 70s & 80s, the days of 3.X were an unqualified success for D&D. Paizo is a product of this and are still going gangbusters via their game which is about 99% freely available.<br /><br />If WotC drops the ball on a robust SRD or another OGL (would be better tbh) 5E, they won't put much of a dent into Paizo and Pathfinder. My 2 coppers... T Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03240533108966151902noreply@blogger.com