tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post2599044482358202012..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Dysfunctional Chainmail Bikini - Sidetracking the Weekly Game Night Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-17471399747717015862015-07-07T23:28:58.998-04:002015-07-07T23:28:58.998-04:00I got to say we can criticize his art that's f...I got to say we can criticize his art that's fine, but this is early art for the man, have you seen his current work? Incredible.ERIC!https://www.blogger.com/profile/18251132223571608976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-88707222808005487122015-07-07T23:25:01.819-04:002015-07-07T23:25:01.819-04:00Wow, nailed it, you could not have commented on th...Wow, nailed it, you could not have commented on the subject any better.ERIC!https://www.blogger.com/profile/18251132223571608976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-26684083371860492892015-07-06T18:51:10.453-04:002015-07-06T18:51:10.453-04:00I always really enjoyed Willingham. Some of my fav...I always really enjoyed Willingham. Some of my favorites from the era were his. v colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13295810510524422791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22133981729733465662015-07-06T13:23:16.564-04:002015-07-06T13:23:16.564-04:00Interestingly, in my game, the naked fighter would...Interestingly, in my game, the naked fighter would actually be more B.A. because of how I work XP and Armor. Armor reduces damage taken, and less damage taken means less XP. Less XP means slower levels. So if a fighter decided to forgo armor entirely, she'd level up probably twice as fast as a full-plate tank style fighter. Assuming she survived her first combats, of course...Lothar Svenssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03195099273437009840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-34952654184440956412015-07-06T12:11:35.801-04:002015-07-06T12:11:35.801-04:00Bill Willingham art was always a bit hit and miss ...Bill Willingham art was always a bit hit and miss in the old D&D stuff (I was not a big fan of his work). Trampier and Caldwell were almost always solid on the other hand. Dee was/is a bit like Willingham... Sometimes awesome, sometimes wtf? Otis was always a bit weird, but he certainly had a hallmark style.<br />Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-23812902134948236292015-07-05T21:16:56.261-04:002015-07-05T21:16:56.261-04:00You are crazy. That picture is awesome.You are crazy. That picture is awesome.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-43401077984622701942015-07-05T19:20:33.657-04:002015-07-05T19:20:33.657-04:00Sucks now....absolutely. Sucks then? Soooo much st...Sucks now....absolutely. Sucks then? Soooo much stuff sucked then but it WAS ALL WE HAD. We were more forgiving then because very few actual good artists were doing fantasy art...especially for RPGs, where it was mostly amateur hour as far as the eye could see.Doctor Futurityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02586371999646337047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-8386118321950823582015-07-05T17:24:12.188-04:002015-07-05T17:24:12.188-04:00Venger is right but even so, the ridicule is all t...Venger is right but even so, the ridicule is all too often lazy hindsight. And I would add, anyone who would use an image like this as a reason why one should play other games has a problem of perspective that art won't be able to solve. Personally, I enjoyed this image back in the day and I enjoy it now. It definitely fueled my imagination that strong, powerful, and pleasing-to-look-at heroes were encountering dangerous and vile enemies in some quest and I still see that in this image. The chainmail bikini can come or go. But I wish more modern D&D art had this kind of evocative angle. Even as a fan of the 5E game, and as good as the art is, it rarely has those qualities, going for much more "grand" imagery, than this work here.v colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13295810510524422791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-1887017703275376132015-07-05T13:27:11.352-04:002015-07-05T13:27:11.352-04:00It's wild and fun and I love it! If lack of &#...It's wild and fun and I love it! If lack of 'realism' offends, assume 'chainmail' armor = what she's wearing. Or whatever version your players prefer. That's what I did, makes everyone happy.Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636292202674906870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-11538589212846874512015-07-05T13:26:54.441-04:002015-07-05T13:26:54.441-04:00It's wild and fun and I love it! If lack of &#...It's wild and fun and I love it! If lack of 'realism' offends, assume 'chainmail' armor = what she's wearing. Or whatever version your players prefer. That's what I did, makes everyone happy.Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636292202674906870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-13439621813223680302015-07-05T13:10:52.939-04:002015-07-05T13:10:52.939-04:00To which source material are you referring? There...To which source material are you referring? There were quite a number of themHolly Oatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703437987958922954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-27917925980476218122015-07-05T10:02:12.389-04:002015-07-05T10:02:12.389-04:00At least she has the shirt on. Plenty of fan-serv...At least she has the shirt on. Plenty of fan-service pieces would've skipped that. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-30892446352427304202015-07-05T10:01:08.098-04:002015-07-05T10:01:08.098-04:00Nope...they remain ridiculous and reasons to play ...Nope...they remain ridiculous and reasons to play better games. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-47156895397048545582015-07-05T10:00:08.603-04:002015-07-05T10:00:08.603-04:00One of many issues with D&D and its alleged so...One of many issues with D&D and its alleged source material. And a reason not to use D&D when one wants to emulate the alleged source material. Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-87776409852220940032015-07-05T09:48:07.795-04:002015-07-05T09:48:07.795-04:00Helga the horrible clearly has no need for an AC ...Helga the horrible clearly has no need for an AC of 8 or better.JDsivrajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10674833512849495283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-24308772383183944962015-07-05T09:33:20.412-04:002015-07-05T09:33:20.412-04:00Bahahhaa! Love it. The whole piece is so flawed......Bahahhaa! Love it. The whole piece is so flawed...and yet so awesome. Gotta live sidetracks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04394407635603034378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-25345737299912905232015-07-05T09:31:06.082-04:002015-07-05T09:31:06.082-04:00Figures the pansy unitard-n-cape elf is just stand...Figures the pansy unitard-n-cape elf is just standing there watching while the hawt redhead does the grunt work. Bloody elves.Steve Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10311427689137574150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-2618787505842490462015-07-05T08:49:54.102-04:002015-07-05T08:49:54.102-04:00I just assumed it was magic since there is no hist...I just assumed it was magic since there is no historical prescident I am aware of. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-20281977294902786012015-07-05T08:12:00.692-04:002015-07-05T08:12:00.692-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07024786332402516653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-21917580714546163602015-07-05T08:11:57.184-04:002015-07-05T08:11:57.184-04:00Venger Satanis nailed it.Venger Satanis nailed it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07024786332402516653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-57968864753481472802015-07-05T07:52:34.143-04:002015-07-05T07:52:34.143-04:00The things we ridicule about D&D eventually be...The things we ridicule about D&D eventually become the things we love about it.<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-65101013393901164542015-07-05T06:43:51.450-04:002015-07-05T06:43:51.450-04:00Elves have never had good taste. They're the ...Elves have never had good taste. They're the gaudiest of the fayHolly Oatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703437987958922954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-73314798758464401722015-07-05T05:37:23.710-04:002015-07-05T05:37:23.710-04:00The thing that always bugged me about pictures lik...The thing that always bugged me about pictures like this is that D&D never worked for the whole barbarian-in-a-loincloth thing. Plate armour only cost 60gp in B/X anyways, so it wasn't hard for your fighters get. But being the front-line fighter with a crap AC was just going to get you killed. You could be that guy in Runequest with its rules for parrying and defence/dodge (depending on edition), and you could even be that guy in T&T. But unless the three of them just came out of a protracted encounter with a rust monster, there is no excuse for being in a dungeon dressed like that.<br /><br />Also, someone should have told the elf that sleeveless unitard and a cape isn't a good look for anybody.Alea iactanda esthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17951704235056042923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-76269631983347106112015-07-05T04:34:00.172-04:002015-07-05T04:34:00.172-04:00Just realized chainmail bikinis imply female fight...Just realized chainmail bikinis imply female fighters are more badass than male ones. They clearly aren't worried about a lack of armor, and they apparently have the skill to back up that arrogance, seeing as they don't take a penalty to ACHolly Oatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01703437987958922954noreply@blogger.com