tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post1568024503932831758..comments2024-03-27T20:09:00.283-04:00Comments on Tenkar's Tavern: Whatever the Definition of the OSR is, It's Not "Scarecrow"Tenkarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-22356855120509293042014-10-19T00:47:20.357-04:002014-10-19T00:47:20.357-04:00As a networking engineer, I often watch movies tha...As a networking engineer, I often watch movies that use hacking, networking, security, intrusion prevention, and firewall terminology. Listening to actors recite lines written by writers who are knowledgeable of entertainment but not networking technology is comical. They don't use the terms quite correctly, expect things to work in ways they don't and see solutions where none actually exist. As a longtime and active member of the OSR community, that's exactly what reading the linked article felt like. This guy simply has no idea what he's talking about. He's making comparisons and statements as best he can about a subject he simply doesn't understand. It's like listening to actors trying to describe how they just thwarted a DoS attack. I don't blame him or need to attack him. I'm simply stating the obvious. His opinion is valid, but it's based almost purely on misunderstanding.mbeacomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03674702605226704063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-33702959547174551042014-10-17T19:04:36.676-04:002014-10-17T19:04:36.676-04:00I think they may have figured it out...
I think they may have figured it out...<br />Chris Gonnermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09491320279165054124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-5459209097152135462014-10-17T19:03:41.339-04:002014-10-17T19:03:41.339-04:00I happen to like ascending AC... but then, if I ha...I happen to like ascending AC... but then, if I had thought of it in 1982, I'd have used it then. I just wasn't that smart.Chris Gonnermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09491320279165054124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-17963429753616687102014-10-17T19:00:51.297-04:002014-10-17T19:00:51.297-04:00Coincidentally, primitive and unsophisticated desc...Coincidentally, primitive and unsophisticated describes my tastes in both food and wine... go figure.Chris Gonnermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09491320279165054124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-44299945660282033832014-10-17T18:58:49.947-04:002014-10-17T18:58:49.947-04:00He used "straw man" incorrectly. Appare...He used "straw man" incorrectly. Apparently having that pointed out caused him to read the Wikipedia page on the subject, for which reason I grant him a pass on it. Doing the research after the fact is better than never doing it at all.Chris Gonnermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09491320279165054124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-72462710908414287762014-10-17T13:31:36.286-04:002014-10-17T13:31:36.286-04:00Hell, he doesn't even know to use "each s...Hell, he doesn't even know to use "each subsequent generation starting with 3rd edition" rather than that convoluted way of saying what he means, or what "until" means. I don't think English is his first language.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-17285712827433926362014-10-16T22:43:58.582-04:002014-10-16T22:43:58.582-04:00Does this mean the Dragon Wars of Tryath was not a...Does this mean the Dragon Wars of Tryath was not a real OSR publication? Someone should let those folks over at Epic Quest know...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06720403564229095467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-66935015780654294322014-10-16T18:10:13.445-04:002014-10-16T18:10:13.445-04:00This was kind of my point -- he may not be saying ...This was kind of my point -- he may not be saying what he thinks he's saying (more than just typos).bygrinstowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02935507280015810333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-45480561606219221222014-10-16T16:13:48.297-04:002014-10-16T16:13:48.297-04:00"I’m a roleplayer who’s preferred each genera..."I’m a roleplayer who’s preferred each generation of D&D over the one that came before. I did not like the original D&D sets and only started to play the granddaddy of the hobby until it evolved into 3e."<br /><br />I don't get it. Why would you keep reading after that paragraph?<br />Venger Satanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447932700800930510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-74456047984667848522014-10-16T15:55:07.819-04:002014-10-16T15:55:07.819-04:00Kenneth Hite and Robin Laws, on the "Ken and ...Kenneth Hite and Robin Laws, on the "Ken and Robin Talk About Stuff" podcast. Very New School focussed, very informed and aware, but annoyingly prone to digs at Old School gaming in which that categorize it as primitive and unsophisticated.E.T.Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816067470809236388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-15413242330456278882014-10-16T15:35:18.181-04:002014-10-16T15:35:18.181-04:00Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. I ...Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. I was too chicken to post it, though. :)Flambeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00133131881423202010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-80438866068419320872014-10-16T15:22:37.559-04:002014-10-16T15:22:37.559-04:00You, sir, really know where your towel is.You, sir, really know where your towel is.ClawCarverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07236809815213343281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-87605181773864494482014-10-16T14:35:12.501-04:002014-10-16T14:35:12.501-04:00Yeah. It was the other guy. In the kingdom of blog...Yeah. It was the other guy. In the kingdom of blog banality Tenkar would be a monster.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-71603722209218438002014-10-16T13:52:06.817-04:002014-10-16T13:52:06.817-04:00poor writer. I stopped reading when he used "...poor writer. I stopped reading when he used "until" to mean "after."Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-36946642493435579282014-10-16T13:06:40.158-04:002014-10-16T13:06:40.158-04:00Manufactured controversy = pageviews.Manufactured controversy = pageviews.Sean McSomethinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00823640529590899118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-90795796096521770902014-10-16T12:29:46.207-04:002014-10-16T12:29:46.207-04:00Jack, you're nor far off track at all, brother...Jack, you're nor far off track at all, brother...Teh Bagder (Jay)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11990479684994472511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-18673137419360759772014-10-16T12:28:21.647-04:002014-10-16T12:28:21.647-04:00totally off track, but i read that last line as &q...totally off track, but i read that last line as " defended by a herd of cats" .<br />docxombiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17840844064767966213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-32400152129287277402014-10-16T12:13:29.568-04:002014-10-16T12:13:29.568-04:00I will add that it is not Mrs. King either.I will add that it is not Mrs. King either.Parrishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865183160676268484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-66394727605792901942014-10-16T11:11:56.122-04:002014-10-16T11:11:56.122-04:00Yes, but only if I also exist to validate your exi...Yes, but only if I also exist to validate your existence. So, maybe.Peter Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246000382321978462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-53668845257451932622014-10-16T11:09:06.466-04:002014-10-16T11:09:06.466-04:00Man, you are such a hater... ;)Man, you are such a hater... ;)Teh Bagder (Jay)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11990479684994472511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-14931048975489851662014-10-16T11:04:47.303-04:002014-10-16T11:04:47.303-04:00First Annual "Define the OSR" Symposium
...First Annual "Define the OSR" Symposium<br /><br />http://goo.gl/Df3GRATeh Bagder (Jay)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11990479684994472511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-20634907861508393002014-10-16T11:03:34.439-04:002014-10-16T11:03:34.439-04:00"I did not like the original D&D sets and..."I did not like the original D&D sets and only started to play the granddaddy of the hobby until it evolved into 3e."<br /><br />I KNEW IT! Damn ascending-AC-lovin' hipster!Smokestack Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06253933872608999580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-90660126246752458302014-10-16T11:03:12.102-04:002014-10-16T11:03:12.102-04:00I'm fairly sure Oakes wasnt referring to me ;)...I'm fairly sure Oakes wasnt referring to me ;)Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-28900898027354903812014-10-16T10:57:28.206-04:002014-10-16T10:57:28.206-04:00I assume you mean the article discussed and not Er...I assume you mean the article discussed and not Erik's rebuttal.Smokestack Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06253933872608999580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1724254580047847936.post-65948655873219510842014-10-16T10:55:02.250-04:002014-10-16T10:55:02.250-04:00the proof that the OSR exists is right here in the...the proof that the OSR exists is right here in the comments to this post - those that identify themselves as part of the OSR community (and it is but a very small sampling of that community)<br /><br />the more tangible proofs, if we can call it that, are the sheer number of retroclones to be found, many for free: http://taxidermicowlbear.weebly.com/dd-retroclones.html<br /><br />As for a universal definition of "What is the OSR?" that is much like herding cats - many in the OSR community have their own ideas, but they are all OSR.<br /><br />My definition on the matter would be no more authoritative than that of The Pundit, Matt Finch, Jason McCartan, Rob Conley, James Mal or anyone else.<br /><br />You may not relate to it, you may not appreciate it or necessarily like it, but it's there. Defined by a herd of cats...Tenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.com